Blade Posted October 20 Posted October 20 2 hours ago, Marianah Adkins said: Not to doom but I saw ads on Twitter by Sen Casey (D-PA) and Sen Baldwin (D- WI) praising or positively name checking Trump I saw an article showing that all rust belt dem senate races ran "we worked with trump" ads The fact that it sounds like internals are so bad for Dems that they feel the need to do that. God I don't think my heart can take seeing every swing state go red on Nov 5...
State of Grace. Posted October 20 Posted October 20 (edited) 3 hours ago, Tovitov said: Not that I think it'll change anyones mind, but I geniunely think Harris will be more Israel-skeptic than Biden has been. Now compare this to Trump Edit: Ignore the twitter sources by the way, Im not on twitter but if I know a clip exsists, i can google a quote and usually a tweet with the video will pop up. I dont follow either of these people. My issue with your point is that "better than Biden" means absolutely nothing when she's also still perpetuating fully debunked lies like the mass rapes and thus excusing everything that Israel has done. Not to mention how she's constantly diminishing the deaths of tens of thousands of Palestinians by saying that "the first and most tragic story is Oct 7th". No death is good (unless they are IDF soldiers who gave up their "civilian" status, they can rest in piss) but I can't take her seriously when she believes that the <1000 that died on Oct 7th are more important than the estimated +300,000 deaths that followed. It only show how depraved Kamala is. Expressing empathy for Palestinians is only allowed if she follows it with the most unhinged justifications for Israel's actions. I'm not delusional and I don't expect her to suddenly be pro-Palestine, but there are many ways to say that she will support Israel without claiming that Palestinians lives are not as valuable, not as precious, and not as deserving for the label "tragic" as Israeli lives. Her statements only keep getting worse the closer we are to the elections. This is why I have so little hope that she will be any different than Biden and this is why I completely understand and support anyone refusing to endorse / vote for her. And I really don't see the point of bringing up Trump. We ALL know that he's a despicable loser who wants Gaza (and all Arabs) nuked. We never talk about him because we know that there's absolutely no way that's going to change. The fact that they are actually being compared to each other only further proves my point. She is that bad when it comes to this issue. I would like to be proven wrong in the future, but it really pains me that we have to sit down and tolerate more scenes of death, people burned alive, people being displaced, etc "until she's in office!!!". Edited October 20 by State of Grace. 3 2
Acuminatus Posted October 20 Posted October 20 6 minutes ago, Wonderland said: Oh my the dooming is getting stronger in here Only two weeks left and we will be free of the dooming. Hopefully.
ClashAndBurn Posted October 20 Posted October 20 55 minutes ago, Blade said: I saw an article showing that all rust belt dem senate races ran "we worked with trump" ads The fact that it sounds like internals are so bad for Dems that they feel the need to do that. God I don't think my heart can take seeing every swing state go red on Nov 5... Well, I've done my part already. Whatever happens next is not in my hands. And if she loses every swing state, that's on her and her deciding to double down on genocidal mania. That's on her pandering to bipartisanship when no one serious is even demanding that she give literal Nazis a place in her Administration. That's on Joe Biden for refusing to step aside until it was too late to hold an actual primary. That's on Joe Biden as well for picking a running mate who was specifically chosen to be unelectable and unpopular so he wouldn't be overshadowed. Frankly, Harris and the Democrats AS A WHOLE have done everything possible to not only deserve to lose this election… but to never win an election ever again. 2 2
Blankspace2010 Posted October 20 Posted October 20 The polls Trump is winning. It's gonna be a landslide. * dramatic meltdown over * No seriously though - this race will be super tight. wtf… 1
slik Posted October 20 Posted October 20 2 hours ago, Wonderland said: Oh my the dooming is getting stronger in here You would think they'd all have been tired of dooming after posting the same in 2020 and 2022... 1 1
Armani? Posted October 20 Posted October 20 20 hours ago, Armani? said: https://www.nytimes.com/2024/10/18/upshot/polls-trump-harris-young-men.html Siena with their bullshit polls this cycle need to stop, this is so obviously not possible White men overall vote 60% Rep, and that's driven by older White men *example 18 - 29 Young Men - 53% Trump/44% Kamala 5.325M Trump 4.42M Kamala 10.1M Total White Young Men(60% electorate) 6.11M 58% Trump(+7 since 2020)/38% Kamala 3.55M Trump 2.35M Kamala Latino Young Men(21% electorate) - 2.12M 51% Trump(+12 since 2022) /45% Kamala 1.09M Trump 960k Kamala Black Young Men(10% electorate) .96k 70% Kamala/26% Trump (+12 since 2020) 675k Kamala 250k Trump Other POC Young Men(9% electorate) 910k 48% Kamala/48% Trump 435k Kamala 435k Trump ** How do you realistically get to 58% for Trump lmao, 53% is already a pipe dream I assume this why Siena keeps having these wierd crosstabs for the Gen Z vote in states like Michigan, this is the avg of their national polls. The male vote is so far right to something incalculable@Communion 1
Harrier Posted October 20 Posted October 20 My major concern at the moment is Kamala is more visible in than Trump in the media right now, even though a clearer spotlight is needed on just how bad and low energy Trump is on the trail. The 'hide Trump' strategy is very strong - it worked for Biden in 2020 - and I think it is responsible for the swing against Harris this month. The weaknesses of a short campaign are becoming apparent - the late narrative needs to be about how bad Trump is, but at the same time voters still don't know her so hiding her is also bad. I don't know what they do Aside from her horrid Gaza stance and a few poor interview responses, there arent that many obvious strategic errors here. Shes running the same safe moderate campaign that's led dozens of Democrats to victory over MAGA in recent years but it's just not working like it is for all the down ballot races. It's just such an insanely hostile and angry electorate, it must be so frustrating to be doing to much work and just not getting anywhere 1 1 1
Bethenny Frankel Posted October 20 Posted October 20 Kamala is going to win can yall please calm down with the dooming 7
dabunique Posted October 20 Posted October 20 7 hours ago, bunnyeyes said: Can this thread please reassure me about what Kamala's chances are? Not dooming about anything just have general election anxiety I'm sorry but we can't 🤣 da polls r a hot mess right now & we truly can't tell who has an upper leg in this election better to doom and gloom for 16 days
Marianah Adkins Posted October 20 Posted October 20 Its better to doom now than to be overconfident like in 2016. I was just lurking then but the shift from strong confidence to meltdowns in the election thread was 1 1 1
woohoo Posted October 20 Posted October 20 (edited) 57 minutes ago, Marianah Adkins said: Its better to doom now than to be overconfident like in 2016. I was just lurking then but the shift from strong confidence to meltdowns in the election thread was Oh I'm dooming all the way until she's sworn in in January. I don't trust white women, I don't trust the courts, I don't trust that snake John Roberts to not throw out every mail in ballot in the country. I won't be sleeping sounds until I know it's 100% and trump can finally crawl back into the sewer he came from. This election is weird. The polls say tied but the crowd sizes and enthusiasm say differently. I think best case Dan Osborne saves the senate and Kamala wins like 2020 minus GA and AZ and possibly picking up NC. She'll squeak out and I mean BARELY squeak out WI and MI and NV for the win. Edited October 20 by woohoo
Armani? Posted October 20 Posted October 20 18 - 29 Young Men - 58% Trump/38% Kamala 5.875M Trump 3.84M Kamala 10.1M Total White Young Men(60% electorate) 6.11M 65% Trump(+14 since 2020)/31% Kamala 3.98M Trump 1.9M Kamala Latino Young Men(21% electorate) - 2.12M 54% Trump(+15 since 2022) /42% Kamala 1.15M Trump 890k Kamala Black Young Men(10% electorate) .96k 67% Kamala/29% Trump (+15 since 2020) 645k Kamala 280k Trump Other POC Young Men(9% electorate) 910k 51% Trump/45% Trump 465k Trump 405k Kamala ** . OK
i spit on haters Posted October 20 Posted October 20 1 hour ago, dabunique said: I'm sorry but we can't 🤣 da polls r a hot mess right now & we truly can't tell who has an upper leg in this election better to doom and gloom for 16 days No one here is expecting a landslide victory but if Michael Moore says Harris will win, then Harris will win. I believe him. I have to. This was also comforting to watch: 2
slik Posted October 20 Posted October 20 I don't know why people pay attention to polls in the first place, they haven't been relevant or accurate in US elections since before 2016
HausOfPunk Posted October 20 Posted October 20 16 minutes ago, Vroom Vroom said: Any good news today? Reveal hidden contents Well...it's Kamala's birthday 1 2
Tovitov Posted October 20 Posted October 20 These 17 days are going to be hell for my diet. The stress eating urges I'm having
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