Sorecer Posted August 24, 2022 Posted August 24, 2022 Just now, Selenasworld said: They still got no distribution deal? Even LOONA got a dead WW with Warner they don't but many record labels wanted to sign them I remember the closest one is Capitol after this they are going to japan I'm curious when will Starship care about the US because if there's a group that actually can hit big in the west aside of BLACKPINK is IVE
Hazy Posted August 24, 2022 Posted August 24, 2022 Just now, Sept said: The unprovoked attack You quote me and go off topic, instigating a random fight and now saying i'm threatened? And then y'll cry like babies and say MYs are bullies I’m not trying to start a fight, I literally stated that I HOPE LSM WILL OPEN HIS EYES AND SEE THAT IT’S POSSIBLE TO BREAK INTO INTERNATIONAL MARKET WITHOUT EMPTY WORDS AND WRONG MOVES AND WON’T REPEAT GIRLS ERA WRONG DECISIONS AGAIN SINCE I ROOT FOR AESPA TOO not my fault IVE did what they desired first which is quite shocking to me and I don’t know how it’s off topic when we’re speaking about 4th gen groups - somehow inserting all of them when aespa was so called 4th gen leaders was ok and BTS is struggling considering how they were everywhere just last year and now they have 3 songs in top50 because army felt motivated to undermine BP’s success I feel like only JK’s song isn’t fandom driven, Bad Decisions was released just a few weeks ago yet it’s tanking and army for some reason decided to stream (and buy) Dynamite instead to fight with blinks
Selenasworld Posted August 24, 2022 Posted August 24, 2022 1 minute ago, Cotton said: So with these numbers it’s actually set in stone that IVE is #1 for the gen currently. & I don’t see it changing rn Not currently they got no albums or minis yet they are big digitally but even NJS debut seems bigger now, they could still lead the competition just not right now
Moon Posted August 24, 2022 Posted August 24, 2022 2 minutes ago, Cotton said: So with these numbers it’s actually set in stone that IVE is #1 for the gen currently. & I don’t see it changing rn A non big 4 gg holding it down for the first time, quite fascinating. Curious to see how YG answer with Baemon or will they wait for 5th gen cause I heard the girls were NewJennies aged . We're already 3 years in but those girls aren't coming yet. Perhaps next year when BP are out of sight out of mind for YG but still giving them those phat tour checks every month.
Cotton Posted August 24, 2022 Posted August 24, 2022 1 minute ago, Selenasworld said: Not currently they got no albums or minis yet they are big digitally but even NJS debut seems bigger now, they could still lead the competition just not right now They’re gonna pass 1M with After Like. And regardless of NewJeans’ digitals they’re not gonna become as global as IVE currently is. NJ aren’t leading the gen..regardless of 3 hits off their debut which is huge it’s only their debut.
BTS Posted August 24, 2022 Posted August 24, 2022 1 hour ago, Kh-Loud said: You don’t look good dancing when you’re too skinny. Like every girl in NewJean is sooo skinny that when they don’t wear baggy clothes, it’s like watching noodles dance! thats also the problem I have with Rośe, I think. She’s just too skinny n look awkward doing alot of those power moves. Aespa as a group look very fit and healthiest among their gen! Wonyoung looks so fragile I would be afraid to touch her! The random body-shaming 49 minutes ago, Take Me Apart said: It's so scary being a WJSN fan rn When they get CLC’d 19 minutes ago, RyuHinode said: is there any chance IVE to debut on Hot 100 without murican label? It would be hard because the updated Hot100 is very radio focused. Its near impossible to get radio play with a korean song and without a label to promote the single. But if their sales are good it’s possible.
Selenasworld Posted August 24, 2022 Posted August 24, 2022 Just now, Cotton said: They’re gonna pass 1M with After Like. And regardless of NewJeans’ digitals they’re not gonna become as global as IVE currently is. NJ aren’t leading the gen..regardless of 3 hits off their debut which is huge it’s only their debut. That's true I think WW they got it
OrgVisual Posted August 24, 2022 Posted August 24, 2022 2 minutes ago, Hazy said: I’m not trying to start a fight, I literally stated that I HOPE LSM WILL OPEN HIS EYES AND SEE THAT IT’S POSSIBLE TO BREAK INTO INTERNATIONAL MARKET WITHOUT EMPTY WORDS AND WRONG MOVES AND WON’T REPEAT GIRLS ERA WRONG DECISIONS AGAIN SINCE I ROOT FOR AESPA TOO not my fault IVE did what they desired first which is quite shocking to me and I don’t know how it’s off topic when we’re speaking about 4th gen groups - somehow inserting all of them when aespa was so called 4th gen leaders was ok and BTS is struggling considering how they were everywhere just last year and now they have 3 songs in top50 because army felt motivated to undermine BP’s success I feel like only JK’s song isn’t fandom driven, Bad Decisions was released just a few weeks ago yet it’s tanking and army for some reason decided to stream (and buy) Dynamite instead to fight with blinks You can feel free to state your opinion, without quoting me (for an unrelated post) and throwing attack like i have fake concern for BTS I literally stated in an earlier post that "Itzy and aespa need to step up cuz it's not looking good for them" so not like our points differ
Billionaire Posted August 24, 2022 Posted August 24, 2022 4 hours ago, sunmimi imfurst said: Kii at Onces trying to get JYP to postpone/extend the music show dates though as if the 3rd week isn't Chuseok (so no music shows will be aired). I feel bad I hope she gets better soon. OT This is an earworm no wonder they were stomping on every other GG for a couple of years
Hazy Posted August 24, 2022 Posted August 24, 2022 6 minutes ago, Eternium said: Billboard 200 Savage - #20 - 17,500 Girls - #3 - 53,000 The issue with this thread is that when one artist smashes, everyone acts like it erases the success of other artists. It happened with IVE when NewJeans smashed, it happened with Aespa when IVE smashed and it happened with ITZY when Aespa smashed. Aespa, IVE and ITZY have all found a footing in the U.S. and will continue to grow. NewJeans, NMIXX and YGNGG will break out here probably 2023/2024. I actually agree with that I’m rooting for every 4th gen group to be honest, I’m just a ggs stan at this point it’s just concerning that aespa has international deal, had huge promotions in the US and they failed with their latest comeback in every metric but sales they have potential, but kpop world is ruthless, especially with how many ggs we have already and they can be easily replaced I hope SM will go back to the table and rethink what are they doing
OrgVisual Posted August 24, 2022 Posted August 24, 2022 6 minutes ago, Selenasworld said: Not currently they got no albums or minis yet they are big digitally but even NJS debut seems bigger now, they could still lead the competition just not right now Eleven (IVE's debut) still sold more than NJ physically I think? And Eleven also got better global numbers than Attention?
hallucinate Posted August 24, 2022 Posted August 24, 2022 (edited) they are so cute hope we get to see them do american promotions soon and by promotions i mean interviews or content like song association, not random performances although that would be nice as well, just a bit early imo Edited August 24, 2022 by hallucinate
getinthezone Posted August 24, 2022 Posted August 24, 2022 The problem with a huge debut is that its gonna be hard to top it or match the success, its nit gonna be easy for NJ
Eternium Posted August 24, 2022 Posted August 24, 2022 5 minutes ago, Hazy said: I actually agree with that I’m rooting for every 4th gen group to be honest, I’m just a ggs stan at this point it’s just concerning that aespa has international deal, had huge promotions in the US and they failed with their latest comeback in every metric but sales they have potential, but kpop world is ruthless, especially with how many ggs we have already and they can be easily replaced I hope SM will go back to the table and rethink what are they doing I’m with you there. Keeping up with buying physicals is…rough And I feel like the Girls era was about SM wrapping up Black Mamba so they can start something less-specific and more generic with their title for their first full album. The meta verse has given them a massive fanbase and I’d hate to see them completely move away from it, but I know SM is aiming for a digital hit with their full album. They’ll also include Next Level on it so it’ll do 1B+ Gaon points right off the bat. 3 minutes ago, Sept said: Eleven (IVE's debut) still sold more than NJ physically I think? And Eleven also got better global numbers than Attention? ELEVEN - 1st Single - 383,605 New Jeans - 1st Mini - 414,454 (one week) We’ll get the second week numbers for New Jeans tonight but it’s kind of an apples-to-oranges situation. NewJeans has an advantage because they have so many different versions and released a mini. Whereas IVE have an advantage because two members were already promoted for years through IZ*ONE. On a side note, I hate that the title of NewJeans’s first mini is “New Jeans.”
RyuHinode Posted August 24, 2022 Posted August 24, 2022 37 minutes ago, Sky max said: If they have enough streams and sales. BTS and BP were able to do it. You never know. 34 minutes ago, LiamVillain said: after like? nope I think (they're pulling great numbers tho) Spotify US: #82 (new) 317,433 iTunes US #62 (-24) 30 minutes ago, rzal said: maybe bubbling under which is also not easy to get (only superm and stray kids did) 13 minutes ago, BTS said: The random body-shaming When they get CLC’d It would be hard because the updated Hot100 is very radio focused. Its near impossible to get radio play with a korean song and without a label to promote the single. But if their sales are good it’s possible. ok . thanks
Sorecer Posted August 24, 2022 Posted August 24, 2022 13 minutes ago, Selenasworld said: Not currently they got no albums or minis yet they are big digitally but even NJS debut seems bigger now, they could still lead the competition just not right now no albums? having 650K in 3 days after release is no albums for a single release? Their gaon numbers will be close to 1M for sure. Love Dive did 338K in a week and the Circle/Gaon numbers was 750k so do the math NWJNS did 300k which is impressive but they just debuted and we won't know what will come in their future until at least 2 comebacks more (IVE is already into it)
Eternium Posted August 24, 2022 Posted August 24, 2022 5 minutes ago, getinthezone said: The problem with a huge debut is that its gonna be hard to top it or match the success, its nit gonna be easy for NJ People said that about Aespa, too, but lately almost every group has been growing with every release. NewJeans will probably never have another era with two smashes, a hit and a well-charting B-side, but they don’t need to replicate that same digital success every time. I have no doubt they’ll be million-sellers within the next two-three comebacks.
Take Me Apart Posted August 24, 2022 Posted August 24, 2022 11 minutes ago, BTS said: When they get CLC’d Pls, CLC wish they could sell like WJSN, their best selling album is on par with WJSN's worst selling one My sisters are NOT about to go down without putting up a fight We just need miss Bona to renew, maybe they can still become Bona and friends
rzal Posted August 24, 2022 Posted August 24, 2022 4 minutes ago, Dark Horse said: the fact that YG media plays just as much as SM but SM's never works the empty titles "FIRST KPOP GIRL GROUP AT COACHELLA main stage" are cringe as hell what does YG mediaplay? #1 song on spotify? 1.5m preorders in few days? all facts
Sorecer Posted August 24, 2022 Posted August 24, 2022 17 minutes ago, WhalieX said: SEA stanning which is important Top 40 they are charting everywhere
Dialamba Posted August 24, 2022 Posted August 24, 2022 20 minutes ago, Cotton said: They’re gonna pass 1M with After Like. And regardless of NewJeans’ digitals they’re not gonna become as global as IVE currently is. NJ aren’t leading the gen..regardless of 3 hits off their debut which is huge it’s only their debut. Serving twice and BP. IVE more global while NJ has more chance to be bigger in Korea. Honestly I don’t see NJ declining in Korea as long the songs are good.
MusicFan98 Posted August 24, 2022 Posted August 24, 2022 The thing is, SS has been the only smart company, JYP has given Itzy the absolute worst songs ever and SM wants to force their weird music on the GP SS has given Wonyoung and friends good music, while IVE's music is not totally my taste, it is obvious their songs are good pop tracks, so props to SS for finding a charming group of girls and giving them nice music.
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