Bookmark99 Posted October 27 Posted October 27 I think she's depressed after Joker 2 flopping and the Harley album bombing as well. She was probably blindsided by how big of a flop it was. I think it took the wind out of her sails and now she's just going through the motions of this single and album release. Tbh she seems over the popstar thing in general. Just my perspective from the outside looking in as someone who isn't necessarily a liddo. I could be wrong tho.
Before the Dawn Posted October 27 Posted October 27 (edited) Crawling out of my rat hole to say some stuff. First of all I want to say that Disease is a great song, I love it, but it's a bad lead single. It's just too loud and aggressive on the ears for the gp, it's not the type of song to listen casually on repeat even if you enjoy it. I always thought that Gaga should do a Billie/Taylor like rollout for LG7 and release the whole thing at once. Sure, she kinda tried it for Harley's queef but that was just a jazz covers album released on short notice. If she did a 1-2 month campaign for LG7 with lots of teasers, visuals, magazine covers, interviews etc while fully selling the idea of a return to her darker style, I think it could work. It's mind-boggling to me that they still want to do things the traditional way with her. She/her team clearly don't know how to pick lead singles or how to properly promote them nowadays, so what's the point? Since Joanne her leads are doing more harm than good for the campaign and she will once again have to course correct with single 2. I want to believe that such a long rollout will be justified and that they have a backup plan, but this is Gaga's team we're talking about so I highly doubt that. I won't be surprised if after the short lived promo they do for Disease (if that), we end up on yet another mid era drought watching the single disappear from the charts until we get a word from her in mid february right before the album drops. Like, I just can't deal with this type of **** every era, it's exhausting. Anyways, despite all of this, I'll always have a soft spot for this puta on my heart and will always be checking out her releases, as I said Disease is amazing and the songs she previewed in Paris sound like the best thing she's done since BTW, so I'm sure the album will be great and can't wait to hear it. Bye, good luck to yall! Edited October 27 by Before the Dawn 4 2
Azealia Banks Posted October 27 Posted October 27 7 minutes ago, GraceRandolph said: Something is just not working. Something about modern Gaga songs doesn't work with the GP. Maybe it is the vocal style? Probably
Denim Posted October 27 Posted October 27 3 minutes ago, GraceRandolph said: Something is just not working. Something about modern Gaga songs doesn't work with the GP. Maybe it is the vocal style? It's unfortunate but for the past 100 years, the GP tends to move on from pop stars 10-15 years into their career to new names. Obviously there are exceptions, but the great majority of big names tend to struggle 10-15 years deep into their career… the fact that her name is still up there competing in the charts is fierce in of itself. Majority of her peers can't get those high debut numbers these days. with that said, I do think her voice took a turn around cheek to cheek—Joanne where she went from a very smooth pop tone to a more theatrical, over the top vocal performance. i think it has its pros and cons, its a bit of a juxtaposition from vocal performances you'll see at the top of pop radio, but its unique and I think fits her style. she still has her poppy tone; you can see it in rain on me chorus, stupid love verses, so on. But I think she's found a new tone as she's gotten older that she's embraced that's definitely different from the tone you hear on songs like paparazzi and just dance 1
gagalips Posted October 27 Posted October 27 8 minutes ago, GraceRandolph said: Something is just not working. Something about modern Gaga songs doesn't work with the GP. Maybe it is the vocal style? Careful, stuff like this gets you labeled as a hater. but these are facts
JapaneseMommy Posted October 27 Posted October 27 Just now, Miichael said: I totally get fans wanting big commercial success, but it sucks that we have gotten to a point in stan culture where it seems like most people can't enjoy an era unless everything is smashing right out of the gate. The numbers for Disease aren't even bad, but what happened to just enjoying the music? It must be depressing af for Gaga to see that after almost twenty years in the industry she's still being held to the standard that she's only as big as her last hit. Tbh, i don't care or give a single **** about the song smashing or being a hit as for gaga, she already has one of the biggest songs smashing under her own name and it doesn't matter if she's sharing that with bruno. The only thing that bothers me is that they're aiming for something in an old fashioned way. This isn't the way it is in the music scene nowadays just release the music video alongside the song and call it a day. 2
Enzo Posted October 27 Posted October 27 I just asked a bunch of friends if they've heard the song Just one did, the rest didn't know she dropped a song 3
Reginald Posted October 27 Posted October 27 @MadMax12 spilling the tough tea as always, phew The GP is tasteless!
Kimi Posted October 27 Posted October 27 5 minutes ago, CristalConners said: Agreed. Unless she is a feature, she seems not to be able to achieve commercial success with her solo work. almost like she's a soon to be 40yo pop star 1
Lord Gaga Posted October 27 Posted October 27 God yall are so negative. Lemme peace out for a bit and enjoy the music. 8
GraceRandolph Posted October 27 Posted October 27 4 minutes ago, MadMax12 said: The GP don't really care about talent anymore. They like minimalistic, bland songs like DWAS, Taylor, Billie etc. Disease is a very complex, layered and aggressive song How do we get a different GP?
Hair Posted October 27 Posted October 27 Well we've made it to our usual countdown time and nothing 4
The ****ess Posted October 27 Posted October 27 this is not the lg7 era we deserved. atp she's on a surefire track to become a khia. 1
DoctorIce Posted October 27 Posted October 27 2 minutes ago, Reginald said: @MadMax12 spilling the tough tea as always 2
Denim Posted October 27 Posted October 27 Die With a Smile is Gaga's most intentional swing at getting a hit and it worked. Rain on me as well, but even more so DWAS. DWAS is perfectly engineered to smash. i don't think disease is, we shouldnt beat ourselves up over its chart performance moving forward. DWAS being a droplet "out of nowhere" 2 months before Disease makes a lot of sense now. It allows her to have a smash hit while also releasing more experimental songs that won't make same dent in the charts Disease is an amazing song, the type of song fans have been begging for since 2014, maybe the next single will click more, who knows. Being frustrated by the silence from the team is incredibly valid tho I get that for sure 2
Azealia Banks Posted October 27 Posted October 27 No but seriously shes been out of the music trends thats why she doesnt smash. She keeps releasing music that doesnt sound like anything out there. Its obvious that if she wants hits she needs to release music that follow the musical trend. I love Disease and her music but its just a fact.
opbranden Posted October 27 Posted October 27 When is Tyler releasing his Chromatica album? Tomorrow?
Azealia Banks Posted October 27 Posted October 27 1 minute ago, Denim said: DWAS was definitely Gaga's biggest and most intentional swing at getting a hit and it worked. Rain on me as well, but even more so DWAS. DWAS is perfectly engineered to smash. i don't think disease is, so I don't think we should beat ourselves up over its chart performance moving forward. It's an amazing song, the type of song fans have been begging for since 2014, maybe the next single will click more, who knows. Being frustrated by the silence from the team is incredibly valid tho I get that for sure Yes 100% 1
BlondUnicorn Posted October 27 Posted October 27 Sometimes great songs do not become hits. Sometimes a silly TikTok trend makes the stupidest song a smash. It's really not that deep. 1
Abracadabra Posted October 27 Posted October 27 2 minutes ago, JapaneseMommy said: Tbh, i don't care or give a single **** about the song smashing or being a hit as for gaga, she already has one of the biggest songs smashing under her own name and it doesn't matter if she's sharing that with bruno. The only thing that bothers me is that they're aiming for something in an old fashioned way. This isn't the way it is in the music scene nowadays just release the music video alongside the song and call it a day. It's actually baffling to me to see people saying that she is doing things the "old fashioned way" because we don't have the MV/promo yet. It's 2024 and we are in an era where it's becoming more and more common for major artists to release no music video at all and do absolutely no promo at all. It was the same pre-Disease release where everyone was having meltdowns about the fact she wasn't posting teasers, and I'm watching from the side thinking "We are literally in times where major artists are dropping entire albums with no teasing, no warning, and no promo and yet Gaga is apparently doing something wrong because she hasn't posted daily teasers for a single?" Like I say, I get fans wanting success and of course we are all eager for the music video. But there's clearly some reason why they are starting slowly, and it's probably something to do with the fact that there is a long rollout before the album and maybe they don't want to do everything in the first week and then have the era sit in silence for three/four months. 1
justin. Posted October 27 Posted October 27 What I'm about to say is not copium, it's something I thought about before the flopping: Once it became apparent the song was being released at the end of October, I became suspicious/confused. The Christmas freeze is about to begin. While the full-freeze doesn't take effect until December, we start to see Christmas songs rapidly rise on November 1st. I think she chose an abrasive song as a teaser because she didn't expect longevity through the holiday season, but she wanted to give the fans a taste of what to expect with the album. The more GP-friendly song will come at the beginning of January. Now, whether they thought the single would have at least a week of success... who knows. But I think part of the situation we're in was planned. 2 1
GraceRandolph Posted October 27 Posted October 27 4 minutes ago, Azealia Banks said: No but seriously shes been out of the music trends thats why she doesnt smash. She keeps releasing music that doesnt sound like anything out there. It's obvious that if she wants hits she needs to release music that follow the musical trend. I love Disease and her music but it's just a fact. What "trend" though? A BRAT sound? A Billie sound? Another DWAS? Trends aren't as important anymore and songs can smash across genres.
Denim Posted October 27 Posted October 27 1 minute ago, justin. said: What I'm about to say is not copium, it's something I thought about before the flopping: Once it became apparent the song was being released at the end of October, I became suspicious/confused. The Christmas freeze is about to begin. While the full-freeze doesn't take effect until December, we start to see Christmas songs rapidly rise on November 1st. I think she chose an abrasive song as a teaser because she didn't expect longevity through the holiday season, but she wanted to give the fans a taste of what to expect with the album. The more GP-friendly song will come at the beginning of January. Now, whether they thought the single would have at least a week of success... who knows. But I think part of the situation we're in was planned. Totally agree with your theory! 1000%! + this sorta flopping gives DWAS more room to continue to blow up
Santhosh Posted October 27 Posted October 27 2 minutes ago, BlondUnicorn said: Sometimes great songs do not become hits. Sometimes a silly TikTok trend makes the stupidest song a smash. It's really not that deep. It's not about smashing After all these years waiting for a pop album. Is this what she does for her beloved fanbase who is responsible for her succes ? She has no problem promoting her jazz or other venture. She did the same with chromatica 3
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