OhRly? Posted February 17, 2022 Posted February 17, 2022 Nnnn the ATRLS gays going crazy with the "artist X with just ONE album" and "artist X will snatch number one in 2 years" WHO-THE-****-CARES? Can you see the legends in this list? Missy, Kim, Lauryn, Foxy? Do people care about BB stats when mentioning them? Stop being chart obsessed
GoodGuyGoneGhetto Posted February 17, 2022 Author Posted February 17, 2022 (edited) 4 hours ago, CandleGuy said: Are these numbers real? How is Lauryn so low, the Miseducation era was massive as was The Score with the Fugees. Yes. These numbers are very real. This account goes to great lengths to provide these calculations. 1) Hill’s points with ‘Fugees’ aren’t counted towards her total, they’re a separate act, but if they were they’d be split with Wyclef Jean and Pras, the other members, anyway. 2) The ‘Miseducation’ era was massive, especially culturally, and it did amazingly commercially, however it wasn’t that big chart-wise (Hot 100) which is what these points are reflected from. - “Doo ***” was a #1 hit but had weak longevity. “Ex-Factor” was predominantly a hit on the R&B charts, particularly airplay, but wasn’t a crossover Pop hit. The only other Pop release from the album was “Everything Is Everything” and that underperformed too. Edited February 17, 2022 by GoodGuyGoneGhetto
GoodGuyGoneGhetto Posted February 17, 2022 Author Posted February 17, 2022 3 hours ago, xfreshkidxx said: Megan such a flop The woman only has 2 #1 hits on the Hot 100, both of which have split points with the collaborators. Had “Savage” still been a solo single at the time of hitting #1, and the remainder of its top ten run, it would’ve pushed her higher on the list.
Badboidami Posted February 17, 2022 Posted February 17, 2022 Well, Cardi is the new QOR, we BEEN knew.
Green Posted February 17, 2022 Posted February 17, 2022 6 hours ago, CandleGuy said: Are these numbers real? How is Lauryn so low, the Miseducation era was massive as was The Score with the Fugees. It's based on the Hot 100 and Lauryn only had like 3 charting singles and only one top 10 hit. If it was based on the Billboard 200 albums chart she would be higher
Green Posted February 17, 2022 Posted February 17, 2022 5 hours ago, JO BLACC said: @GoodGuyGoneGhettocan you make a list about female rappers but count only the rap songs? How in hell are we counting “starships”, “va va voom” or even all those david guetta songs for a rap battle. Nicki can’t be a queen of rap when all her hits are POP SONGS. She has 0 successful rap songs. Count rap songs only if you want to make a valid list. Otherwise add kesha and fergie to this list too. If they remove the pop songs then Doja would fall hard too
JO BLACC Posted February 17, 2022 Posted February 17, 2022 1 minute ago, Green said: If they remove the pop songs then Doja would fall hard too Then they should do that. I’m just not okay with people calling themselves queen of something when they are not even known for their rap songs. What is a classic rap song by nicki please? Everyone knows she is a RAPPER yeah but she has no hit rap songs and doesn’t have a known rap song. Starships, turn me on, anaconda, va va voom, bang bang, pound the alarm doesn’t make you a rap queen
Alex Posted February 17, 2022 Posted February 17, 2022 Cardi coming for #1 Doja in the top 5 already Why is Megan so low
professor2000 Posted February 17, 2022 Posted February 17, 2022 I mean, here’s the thing… re: “let’s remove Pop songs” the two artists “doing Pop songs” actually have great Rap writing skills — which is the main talent of being a rapper. So, I get it…b/c Pop is more accessible/universal (see: more steams), but I don’t think it automatically disqualifies someone from being “Queen (or whatever) of Rap”. Writing talent will always be the most revered skill of a rapper. Then we have artists like Missy, she’s known for mixing singing + rapping too. Arguably some of her records are crossover too. Her two biggest H100 hits are “1,2 Step” and “Lose Control”…not exactly pure Hip-Hop like Lauryn Hill, Lil Kim, etc. imo. So should these be removed for her too? lol
MardinBeksloy Posted February 17, 2022 Posted February 17, 2022 9 hours ago, Mattyboy said: Please.. I expected better coming from you. Cardi has like 50 features.. And Nicki is coming from the digital era. It’s easy to get SPS with free streams. It’s also easier to chart back then, to collect charting points. Now songs fall off if they don’t stick to streaming chart like Nicki newer songs. Cardi B is getting hits after hits both collab and solo. What was Nicki last solo hit? Anaconda?
Bimbo Posted February 17, 2022 Posted February 17, 2022 Cardi effortlessly STOMPING while staying true to her RAP music
BnPac Posted February 17, 2022 Posted February 17, 2022 Missy #3 without the boost of the streaming era.
Bacardo Royale Posted February 17, 2022 Posted February 17, 2022 8 hours ago, suburbannature said: Barbz still pretending Nicki is some kind of talent? Nicki's haters can usually admit she has talent so they avoid that topic altogether, your delusional stubbornness is amusing
suburbannature Posted February 17, 2022 Posted February 17, 2022 3 minutes ago, Bacardo Royale said: Nicki's haters can usually admit she has talent so they avoid that topic altogether, your delusional stubbornness is amusing Please. We’ve all seen her laughably-horrible lyrics. The tAlENt angle is just Barbz bring Barbz.
Dreajae Posted February 17, 2022 Posted February 17, 2022 So much vitriol against Megan. Are we really going to pretend that hot 100 points are solely based on sales and streams? Radio remains the biggest component even in the streaming era. WAP peaked at #22 on overall radio with 50 million in audience. That was then split in half. Megan doesnt have that type of push with her current label. But maybe she will with 300 going to Warner.
El Chico Posted February 17, 2022 Posted February 17, 2022 Cardi’s success with just 1 album is honestly incredible Doja coming up so fast is amazing to! I can definitely see her at #1 in a few years with the rate she releases (some girls can’t relate to dropping albums) + the advantage of pop
GoodGuyGoneGhetto Posted February 17, 2022 Author Posted February 17, 2022 5 hours ago, JO BLACC said: Then they should do that. I’m just not okay with people calling themselves queen of something when they are not even known for their rap songs. What is a classic rap song by nicki please? Everyone knows she is a RAPPER yeah but she has no hit rap songs and doesn’t have a known rap song. Starships, turn me on, anaconda, va va voom, bang bang, pound the alarm doesn’t make you a rap queen
GreatestLoveofAll Posted February 17, 2022 Posted February 17, 2022 12 hours ago, infrared said: This list is unfair because older rappers had to climb through hell and back even iggy being there is a complete ki. meanwhile the male list is probably looking so different. this. everyone here should be applauded for being top 10 considering how maligned female rap careers have historically been. OT: Congrats Nicki and Cardi for the top 2.
loveisdead9582 Posted February 17, 2022 Posted February 17, 2022 11 hours ago, DevonRoars said: Fancy was huge.. and really.. there aren’t many female rappers doing numbers. Yes. Fancy was huge, but she hasn’t done much since. 11 hours ago, DevonRoars said: “some singles” please. Every song is just a hit. She’s doing well. I never implied otherwise. Her numbers are very impressive especially since she’s still relatively early in her career.
Raver Posted February 17, 2022 Posted February 17, 2022 8 hours ago, OhRly? said: Nnnn the ATRLS gays going crazy with the "artist X with just ONE album" and "artist X will snatch number one in 2 years" WHO-THE-****-CARES? Can you see the legends in this list? Missy, Kim, Lauryn, Foxy? Do people care about BB stats when mentioning them? Stop being chart obsessed This thread is about chart stats. You want to discuss the legends then go to another thread cause clearly seeing the newer girls surpass them -chart wise- is making you so angry. Bothered over Cardi making the top 2 with just 1 album. You can’t even type her name
OhRly? Posted February 17, 2022 Posted February 17, 2022 10 minutes ago, Raver said: This thread is about chart stats. You want to discuss the legends then go to another thread cause clearly seeing the newer girls surpass them -chart wise- is making you so angry. Bothered over Cardi making the top 2 with just 1 album. You can’t even type her name Angry? I get it, it is easier for some people in this forum to hide behind numbers instead of discussing artistry or impact. Bothered over who? I did not mention any names because clearly there have been users naming Cardi, Doja, Nicki in this thread. So the comment was not against a particular artist. Grow up
makeme Posted February 17, 2022 Posted February 17, 2022 Doja has 5 songs charting this week adding to her points
Raver Posted February 17, 2022 Posted February 17, 2022 27 minutes ago, OhRly? said: Angry? I get it, it is easier for some people in this forum to hide behind numbers instead of discussing artistry or impact. Again, this thread is about chart stats. You’re not even discussing anyone’s artistry in your initial post either. Just mad and telling everyone to stop being chart obsessed 28 minutes ago, OhRly? said: Bothered over who? I did not mention any names because clearly there have been users naming Cardi, Doja, Nicki in this thread. So the comment was not against a particular artist. Grow up Quote Nnnn the ATRLS gays going crazy with the "artist X with just ONE album" and "artist X will snatch number one in 2 years" Yeah because Doja or Nicki have only ONE album. You’re the one that needs to grow up. Seriously, stay outta chart threads
GoodGuyGoneGhetto Posted February 17, 2022 Author Posted February 17, 2022 2 hours ago, GreatestLoveofAll said: this. everyone here should be applauded for being top 10 considering how maligned female rap careers have historically been. OT: Congrats Nicki and Cardi for the top 2. Also, it’s even more impressive that Missy Elliot is #3 considering she peaked, chart-wise, during the most inconsistent period of the Hot 100 (2000-2003/2005) due to the complete decline of physical singles at the time + airplay having been the sole factor in determining points/positions, mostly, and digital sales/iTunes having yet not hit its prime. Moreover, Elliot would have been higher, and indefinitely ranked at #2, had she been credited on two other major singles: “Lady Marmalade” and “So Gone”.
El Chico Posted February 17, 2022 Posted February 17, 2022 1 hour ago, Raver said: Again, this thread is about chart stats. You’re not even discussing anyone’s artistry in your initial post either. Just mad and telling everyone to stop being chart obsessed Yeah because Doja or Nicki have only ONE album. You’re the one that needs to grow up. Seriously, stay outta chart threads Glad you called them out their post reeks of bitterness. The fact they can’t even admit it was all about Cardi yet alone type her name
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