charts discussion Christina Aguilera’s La Fuerza fails to chart on Billboard 200

[BionicWooHoo]

5 hours ago, lovemehateme said:

Yall also anticipated PMM and Santo to be hits and LF to go top 30 on the BB200. If I were you, I would lower my expectations to save myself from future embarrassments like this thread but you do you.

 

Despite not charting, Like I Do and Fall in Line got Grammy noms for vocal performance (something your fav will never win…maybe she’ll go viral for singing like a hyena in her bathroom tho) so why is it so hard to believe La Fuerza can’t do the same 

[BionicWooHoo]

4 hours ago, Scars said:

 

 

It's funny because it's not just Christina stans, Selena Gomez stans also tried this **** and so on. Whenever an american pop girl release a spanish project, western stans go hard with the "she's just reconnecting with her latina heritage and culture!" narrative to shield their faves from criticism and I'm always thinking about WHAT exactly are they supposed to "reconnect" with. 

 

Christina is a white american woman who lived in the US her entire life and she just dropped a reggaeton single with Ozuna. Reggaeton is a genre that was heavily influeced by the afro-puerto rican scene going on in the slums of San Juan. Like, what is even there for Christina to "claim" or "reconnect" from reggaeton? I genuinely like Christina and don't see any harm in her exploring that sound, but some stans really need to stop act so pretentious and just deal with the fact that she's clearly chasing a trend/experimenting with a very popular sound. 

 

You can tell these stans have no idea of how diverse Latin America is and they think that someone having a great-grandparent from some random hispanic country automatically makes any of these girls culturally connected to literally every single cultural scene going on in the entire region. Meanwhile, I was born and raised in Latam and I'd never dare to claim some of the many musical genres from my own country as part of "my culture" simply because I have zero connection to the region or ethnic group that runs it and I respect that.

 

Stop gatekeeping how people reconnect or feel close to their ethnicity/heritage. I’m Chinese and I was born in the US. I don’t speak a lick of Korean but I enjoy kpop because it makes me feel connected to my Asian side. Lots of Asian people do this. Should I stop and only listen to mandopop  because I’m not actually Korean? 

[Slayn]

On 1/31/2022 at 3:55 PM, BionicWooHoo said:

Does a passion project Spanish EP charting make a difference when you can book gigs like these?

this is NOT a big gig 

[BionicWooHoo]

24 minutes ago, Slayn said:

this is NOT a big gig 

Oh? I’m sure she made more from this gig than what you make in an entire year but okay. Not everyone gets to be hired by big corporations like Disney 
 

Not good enough? How about the two night LA philharmonic concert attended by A lister and fan Ariana Grande? 
 

but just so we’re not off topic, these little non charting songs managed to help book a performance at Latin music’s biggest night, the Latin Grammys. 
 

we wanna keep going?

[ToMmY]

Serves her right for releasing that shitty reggaeton music.

 

 

Stream Mi Reflejo.

[RockStarShit101]

how sad  

[Both Sides Now]

9 hours ago, genio said:

Then name one who did, with absolutely NO physicals.

 

Christina's like the first (or one of the very few) out of the 90s/00s acts to release an EP without any physicals accompanying it.

 

Edit: Wait I forgot Eminem, just ignore everything I said

 

 

Literally Mariah’s album of 30 year old B-sides had enough streaming to chart (6.2k) 

[Assassin]

12 hours ago, WalkAway said:

And? They both made Spanish EP's and they both didn't chart. Like...

One is a US act, one isn't. Billboard is a US chart company.

 

 

[BreakinTheIce]

6 hours ago, BionicWooHoo said:

Despite not charting, Like I Do and Fall in Line got Grammy noms for vocal performance (something your fav will never win…maybe she’ll go viral for singing like a hyena in her bathroom tho) so why is it so hard to believe La Fuerza can’t do the same 

girl why you gotta be shady and come for anyone else? this is about christina and that's it.

[Frozen99]

[Sharapov]

4 hours ago, ToMmY said:

Serves her right for releasing that shitty reggaeton music.

 

 

Stream Mi Reflejo.

This 100%. the downgrade of quality in her career after bionic... yikes

[genio]

1 hour ago, Both Sides Now said:

Literally Mariah’s album of 30 year old B-sides had enough streaming to chart (6.2k) 

Mariah is the queen of everything, so I'm not surprised.

 

[JaiTina]

It's a digital Spanish ep with no physical copies.. Its also the 1st of 3. She also hasn't put out a Spanish record like this in over 2 decades. And the Billboard 200 is only the US 

 

Y'all will take every opportunity to drag Xtina.

 

I'm gonna enjoy the music and wait for when the entire album is released with physical copies. 

[SinnerCity]

On 1/31/2022 at 9:44 PM, WalkAway said:

 

Spanish EP's rarely chart. That's what you don't understand. Even Maluma's EP didn't chart and he's huge in Spanish music.

 

 

But Selena’s Revelación charted with 23K and so did Kali Uchi’s latest project.

 

It is disappointing that it did virtually nothing for Christina but not having physical copies definitely affected her. I don’t think they thought or care about it’s chart performance in the first place. Hopefully the two other EPs will go as planned and this won’t jeopardise the future releases.

Edited February 2, 2022 by SinnerCity

[WalkAway]

2 hours ago, Assassin said:

One is a US act, one isn't. Billboard is a US chart company.

 

 

All of his recent albums charted on BB200, his EP didn't...

 

[WalkAway]

2 hours ago, Both Sides Now said:

Literally Mariah’s album of 30 year old B-sides had enough streaming to chart (6.2k) 

Mariah had physical copies, 15 tracks and promoted it.  

[Both Sides Now]

8 minutes ago, WalkAway said:

Mariah had physical copies, 15 tracks and promoted it.  

The physical/digital copies accounted for 14k. She had 6.2k alone from streaming. And can we stop with this promo stuff? Three singles/three videos, live performances etc. There’s been plenty of promo. 

[WalkAway]

11 minutes ago, Both Sides Now said:

The physical/digital copies accounted for 14k. She had 6.2k alone from streaming. And can we stop with this promo stuff? Three singles/three videos, live performances etc. There’s been plenty of promo. 

Promo where? Not in US. Nobody in US knows she released anything. Once again Mariah had 15 tracks vs 6. English tracks at that. 

 

Edit: Actually Mariah had 32 tracks vs Christina's 6. 

 

The Rarities - 24,973,873 (32 tracks released in 2020)

La Fuerza - 27,251,024 

Edited February 2, 2022 by WalkAway

[Loghen]

14 hours ago, WalkAway said:

And? They both made Spanish EP's and they both didn't chart. Like...

The fact that you're serious

[Pedro Labre]

13 hours ago, genio said:

Then name one who did, with absolutely NO physicals.

 

Christina's like the first (or one of the very few) out of the 90s/00s acts to release an EP without any physicals accompanying it.

 

Edit: Wait I forgot Eminem, just ignore everything I said

 

 

 

Missy Elliot Iconology EP (2019)

 

14:49 Length

 

5 tracks

 

24 on Billboard 200

 

Surprise release, no physical sales

[Xtripped]

Not the Mariah/Britney fans still fighting.

 

I mean a 6 EP spanish language tracks with NO PHYSICAL release and they expect to compete with full albums with english tracks with cd, vinyl and cassetes released. Truly worms for brains.

 

Even Selena Gomez who is fully embraced by Gen Z debuted with ~20k, Baila Conmigo was a hit and she released cd's and vinyls with multiple covers and even a Target edition. 

[Xtripped]

6 minutes ago, Pedro Labre said:

 

Missy Elliot Iconology EP (2019)

 

14:49 Length

 

5 tracks

 

24 on Billboard 200

 

Surprise release, no physical sales

All respect to Missy but it's and EP with english language tracks and ahead of the MTV Vanguard Award performance, How many ALBUMS in spanish are charting in the top 200?

[genio]

1 hour ago, WalkAway said:

Promo where? Not in US. Nobody in US knows she released anything. Once again Mariah had 15 tracks vs 6. English tracks at that. 

 

Edit: Actually Mariah had 32 tracks vs Christina's 6. 

 

The Rarities - 24,973,873 (32 tracks released in 2020)

La Fuerza - 27,251,024 

Mariah's also my fav but that user is trying it

 

[EnoughSaid]

I actually don't understand, is this factual? Not being shady but the #200 position sells like what? 1K total with SPS. How did she not chart

[Tistotal]

This thread is such a mess omg  the Afuera - Afuera comment