Hector Posted July 19, 2021 Share Posted July 19, 2021 SHOWDOWN: At this point it looks as though Big Loud’s Morgan Wallen will have the top album of 2021. But if anyone can overtake him, it’s Rodrigo; both have been forecast to finish the year north of 3m. Can she surge enough to surpass him? If Wallen takes the prize, he’ll have the first country album to be a year’s #1 in all genres since Taylor Swift’s Fearless in 2009. https://hitsdailydouble.com/news&id=327409&title=NEAR-TRUTHS%3A-GOALLLLLLLL Effortlessly slaying the year Counting down the months till she overtakes the disgusting racist Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QueenofCopyPaste Posted July 19, 2021 Share Posted July 19, 2021 Wow she can possibly dethrone Morgan?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrDog Posted July 19, 2021 Share Posted July 19, 2021 No doubt she's the second coming of Taylor Swift. A f*ckin pop juggernaut. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KKW Posted July 19, 2021 Share Posted July 19, 2021 Morgan Wallen? America is something else lmao Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jjang Posted July 19, 2021 Share Posted July 19, 2021 Basicness won Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diesel is Desire Posted July 19, 2021 Share Posted July 19, 2021 New queen of all metrics Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brando Posted July 19, 2021 Share Posted July 19, 2021 Would have reached diamond if released 20 years ago. They need to increase streaming weight on certifications. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WildHeart Posted July 19, 2021 Share Posted July 19, 2021 3 minutes ago, Brando said: Would have reached diamond if released 20 years ago. They need to increase streaming weight on certifications. The problem is not weighting of streaming. Streaming takes much more time to accumulate units. Back in the physical era, albums used to sell big and fast but they were front-loaded and artists were as big as their last release. This is why 100 week+ charting albums were very limited. It is totally different nowadays and even 5 years old albums still move good units. Streaming gave albums longevity. This is why %66 of Bilboard album chart is catalogue albums today. Sour will come close to Diamond in future if it keeps like that and Olivia has good career with longevity in her future. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nightingale Posted July 19, 2021 Share Posted July 19, 2021 Oh so she has a chance still? Let me keep streaming then Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KillingYourCareer Posted July 19, 2021 Share Posted July 19, 2021 11 minutes ago, Brando said: Would have reached diamond if released 20 years ago. They need to increase streaming weight on certifications. Streaming in the US already weighs more than anywhere else in the world since RIAA /150's video streams as well Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brando Posted July 19, 2021 Share Posted July 19, 2021 1 minute ago, Artistofthedecade said: The problem is not weighting of streaming. Streaming takes much more time to accumulate units. Back in the physical era, albums used to sell big and fast but they were front-loaded and artists were as big as their last release. This is why 100 week+ charting albums were very limited. It is totally different nowadays and even 5 years old albums still move good units. Streaming gave albums longevity. This is why %66 of Bilboard album chart is catalogue albums today. Sour will come close to Diamond in future if it keeps like that and Olivia has good career with longevity in her future. I mean all of this is correct, but albums were able to go diamond within 1/2 years even if there wasn't long term interest, and some kept selling through the years reaching 2x diamond+. I wonder how many diamond albums we'll get from this period in 5/10 year's time to see the full saturation level of long term streaming. I guess it will favour those who will be able to sustain long term careers. One era wonders will unlikely see very high certifications. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brando Posted July 19, 2021 Share Posted July 19, 2021 2 minutes ago, KillingYourCareer said: Streaming in the US already weighs more than anywhere else in the world since RIAA /150's video streams as well yet super smash albums with incredible longevity like Future Nostalgia are only 2x plat (and that includes physical sales) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KillingYourCareer Posted July 19, 2021 Share Posted July 19, 2021 2 minutes ago, Brando said: yet super smash albums with incredible longevity like Future Nostalgia are only 2x plat (and that includes physical sales) Maybe because their pure sales are abysmal and streaming units can only do so much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drivers license Posted July 19, 2021 Share Posted July 19, 2021 damn, Interscope needs to do something. push those vinyls when it gets released and make her sign like 50k vinyls go full on Taylor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IStanHard Posted July 19, 2021 Share Posted July 19, 2021 30 minutes ago, Jjang said: Basicness won OT: Songwriting talent and establishing a genuine connection with your listeners won Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drivers license Posted July 19, 2021 Share Posted July 19, 2021 Just now, IStanHard said: OT: Songwriting talent and establishing a genuine connection with your listeners won that person is obsessed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brishka Posted July 19, 2021 Share Posted July 19, 2021 8 minutes ago, Brando said: yet super smash albums with incredible longevity like Future Nostalgia are only 2x plat (and that includes physical sales) FN is not a super smash album Its certifications accurately reflect its consumption. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Both Sides Now Posted July 19, 2021 Share Posted July 19, 2021 Holy **** and this is with only 11 tracks. The racist album has 33 tracks Her effortless stomp Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brando Posted July 19, 2021 Share Posted July 19, 2021 4 minutes ago, KillingYourCareer said: Maybe because their pure sales are abysmal and streaming units can only do so much. But we're in streaming age, the certifications should reflect popularity. They don't. It's impossible that everyone and their grandma had a 5x/6x/7x platinum album 20/25 years ago, while a good number of most popular albums were at least diamond. While Future Nostalgia can't do a third of an averagely successful album back then? That makes no sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glamthony Posted July 19, 2021 Share Posted July 19, 2021 She needs a re-release with a huge single like g4u. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WildHeart Posted July 19, 2021 Share Posted July 19, 2021 (edited) 40 minutes ago, Brando said: I mean all of this is correct, but albums were able to go diamond within 1/2 years even if there wasn't long term interest, and some kept selling through the years reaching 2x diamond+. I wonder how many diamond albums we'll get from this period in 5/10 year's time to see the full saturation level of long term streaming. I guess it will favour those who will be able to sustain long term careers. One era wonders will unlikely see very high certifications. You are right. It really disadvantages album's success due to artists' whole career in some cases. For example, WWAFASWDWG could become a Diamond album at past and it feels like one but let’s say if HTE ends as front-loaded along with Billie's career, it might not reach it or at least move less units than it could have at the past (even after her recent releases, her albums fell a bit in Bilboard). But i guess the thing is, streaming didn't reach it's full potential yet and it is still growing so industry don't know it's limits yet and can't weight it properly. We don't know if streaming will double its numbers in next 5 years or not. It is new. Edited July 19, 2021 by Artistofthedecade Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KillingYourCareer Posted July 19, 2021 Share Posted July 19, 2021 3 minutes ago, Brando said: But we're in streaming age, the certifications should reflect popularity. They don't. It's impossible that everyone and their grandma had a 5x/6x/7x platinum album 20/25 years ago, while a good number of most popular albums were at least diamond. While Future Nostalgia can't do a third of an averagely successful album back then? That makes no sense. In 2001 the best-selling single of the year sold 400k copies. No certifications were awarded at all. Yet, the RIAA never changed their thresholds... so it'll stay the same this time around (and it's not like albums aren't reaching thresholds). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hope ur ok Posted July 19, 2021 Share Posted July 19, 2021 33 minutes ago, Brando said: I mean all of this is correct, but albums were able to go diamond within 1/2 years even if there wasn't long term interest, and some kept selling through the years reaching 2x diamond+. I wonder how many diamond albums we'll get from this period in 5/10 year's time to see the full saturation level of long term streaming. I guess it will favour those who will be able to sustain long term careers. One era wonders will unlikely see very high certifications. Albums like WWAFA, SOUR, IOP and maybe even Lover if it continues to serve longevity like it is rn will go diamond at some poinz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Medonerpls Posted July 19, 2021 Share Posted July 19, 2021 3m with her debut album, under a year Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jjang Posted July 19, 2021 Share Posted July 19, 2021 (edited) 3 hours ago, IStanHard said: OT: Songwriting talent and establishing a genuine connection with your listeners won Go listen to a 16 yo singing about Chad cheating on her with Jessica during Chemistry class idk why you're bringing ultra talented Ariana Grande into this Edited July 19, 2021 by Jjang ty[p Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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