NEZ Posted January 30, 2017 Share Posted January 30, 2017 17 minutes ago, simmnfierzig said: I will figure it out. But will probably need 2 or 3 weeks to be accurate again. Probably just do the top 20 until then just kidding sis. i love your predictions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simmnfierzig Posted January 30, 2017 Share Posted January 30, 2017 1 hour ago, Blue G said: can someone explain the sunset rule? and what does it mean to falling songs and their longetivity on the charts It's just a rule for the chart on Pandora. The streams still count regularly for the Hot 100. So irrelevant. Just another detail that makes it harder for me, but alright. 13 minutes ago, ARTPØP said: So to clarify, the added Pandora streams are going to be super beneficial to songs like LOB, STYB and WUTB? Aka songs that are smashing on radio but nowhere else lol Yes 7 minutes ago, UNNAMI said: but points from that will be added to streaming songs not radio, right? Yes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NEZ Posted January 30, 2017 Share Posted January 30, 2017 8 minutes ago, UNNAMI said: but points from that will be added to streaming songs not radio, right? yeah streaming i believe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
istan4badgalriri Posted January 30, 2017 Share Posted January 30, 2017 11 minutes ago, ARTPØP said: So to clarify, the added Pandora streams are going to be super beneficial to songs like LOB, STYB and WUTB? Aka songs that are smashing on radio but nowhere else lol Also, is there some kind of link that can take me to the top songs on Pandora? Or does no such thing exist yet? Idk about STYB & WUTB, but LOTB is going #10 or #11 on digital sales this week and it's top 30 on streaming songs without a video so... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NEZ Posted January 30, 2017 Share Posted January 30, 2017 (edited) 30 minutes ago, Thuggin said: LOTB is perfect for the Grammys though, so it would be odd if she didn't perform it. And I think top 3 might still be a reach tbh just because Migos, Ed, and Zaylor are so strong. A #4 peak would be more than possible. if she releases a video the same night of the grammys then LOTB could definitely top the hot 100. Edited January 30, 2017 by NEZ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unbreakable Heaven Posted January 30, 2017 Share Posted January 30, 2017 @simmnfierzig what do you do for a living? Curious about how you started doing predictions on ATRL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iHype. Posted January 30, 2017 Share Posted January 30, 2017 2 minutes ago, Unbreakable Smile said: @simmnfierzig what do you do for a living? Curious about how you started doing predictions on ATRL. He works as a news reporter in Ghanda Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simmnfierzig Posted January 30, 2017 Share Posted January 30, 2017 1 minute ago, Unbreakable Smile said: @simmnfierzig what do you do for a living? Curious about how you started doing predictions on ATRL. I'm a student. Industrial engineering and management I guess it's called in English. Just love numbers and stuff. Hot 100 predictions are a lot of fun Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simmnfierzig Posted January 30, 2017 Share Posted January 30, 2017 1 minute ago, iHype. said: He works as a news reporter in Ghanda I do what, where Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iHype. Posted January 30, 2017 Share Posted January 30, 2017 Just now, simmnfierzig said: I do what, where An alternative fact Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unbreakable Heaven Posted January 30, 2017 Share Posted January 30, 2017 1 minute ago, simmnfierzig said: I'm a student. Industrial engineering and management I guess it's called in English. Just love numbers and stuff. Hot 100 predictions are a lot of fun ok awesome! you're making me become interested in it since I'm majoring in Math. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
imabadkid Posted January 30, 2017 Share Posted January 30, 2017 MIGOS slayin' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ARTPØP Posted January 30, 2017 Share Posted January 30, 2017 (edited) Since I'm bored, I'm going to do another super early prediction for the top 10 and some others. Tomorrow I'll try the top 20. (01) Bad and Boujee || iTunes: #4 || Radio: #21 || Spotify: #1 || YouTube: #1 || Pandora: #3 (=) (02) Shape of You || iTunes: #2 || Radio: #5 || Spotify: #2 || YouTube: #5 || Pandora: #14 (=) (03) I Don't Wanna Live Forever || iTunes: #1 || Radio: #11 || Spotify: #4 || YouTube: #2 || Pandora: #9 (+2) (04) Bad Things || iTunes: #6 || Radio: #3 || Spotify: #12 || YouTube: #14 || Pandora: #13 (=) (05) Closer || iTunes: #16 || Radio: #4 || Spotify: #13 || YouTube: #7 || Pandora: #34 (-2) (06) Black Beatles || iTunes: #34 || Radio: #13 || Spotify: #11 || YouTube: #4 || Pandora: #1 (=) (07) Fake Love || iTunes: #19 || Radio: #8 || Spotify: #3 || YouTube: N/A || Pandora: #2 (+2) (08) Don't Wanna Know || iTunes: #17 || Radio: #1 || Spotify: #20 || YouTube: N/A || Pandora: #6 (-1) (09) Starboy || iTunes: #27 || Radio: #12 || Spotify: #8 || YouTube: #6 || Pandora: #5 (-1) (10) Scars To Your Beautiful || iTunes: #20 || Radio: #2 || Spotify: #75 || YouTube: N/A || Pandora: #4 (=) Others (11) Paris || iTunes: #3 || Radio: #22 || Spotify: #5 || YouTube: N/A || Pandora: #19 (+2) (12) Love On The Brain || iTunes: #18 || Radio: #7 || Spotify: #63 || YouTube: N/A || Pandora: #7 (+2) (15) I Feel It Coming || iTunes: #9 || Radio: #14 || Spotify: #14 || YouTube: N/A || Pandora: #22 (+3) Edited January 30, 2017 by ARTPØP Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simmnfierzig Posted January 30, 2017 Share Posted January 30, 2017 With the formula change it seems pretty certain that Shape Of You has the #1 in the bag for next week. Would post some numbers, but not without kworb... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Rose Posted January 30, 2017 Share Posted January 30, 2017 (edited) Pretty stupid to decrease sales and streams when radio is the component that should be dropped EDIT: urban tracks are still popular on Pandora. Edited January 30, 2017 by Superpower Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexanderao Posted January 30, 2017 Author Share Posted January 30, 2017 2 minutes ago, Superpower said: Radio is the component that should be dropped Please elaborate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Rose Posted January 30, 2017 Share Posted January 30, 2017 Just now, alexanderao said: Please elaborate. Not dropped completely but weighted down more because of all the radio corruption and radio payola is 1000x worst than Spotify payola Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexanderao Posted January 30, 2017 Author Share Posted January 30, 2017 Just now, Superpower said: Not dropped completely but weighted down more because of all the radio corruption and radio payola is 1000x worst than Spotify payola What do you think should determine a metric's influence on the Hot 100: how many people use it or the mechanisms that determine the songs they listen to while using it? I say the former. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green Posted January 31, 2017 Share Posted January 31, 2017 The new change helping Grammys Under The Bridge Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simmnfierzig Posted January 31, 2017 Share Posted January 31, 2017 7 minutes ago, Superpower said: Pretty stupid to decrease sales and streams when radio is the component that should be dropped EDIT: urban tracks are still popular on Pandora. Sales were increased Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Rose Posted January 31, 2017 Share Posted January 31, 2017 8 minutes ago, simmnfierzig said: Sales were increased Oh good. I was told they were decreased. This makes more sense. Is SoundCloud already part of the points? I think they should add it too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UNNAMI Posted January 31, 2017 Share Posted January 31, 2017 1 minute ago, Superpower said: Oh good. I was told they were decreased. This makes more sense. Is SoundCloud already part of the points? I think they should add it too It is Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexanderao Posted January 31, 2017 Author Share Posted January 31, 2017 1 minute ago, Superpower said: Oh good. I was told they were decreased. This makes more sense. Is SoundCloud already part of the points? I think they should add it too SoundCloud is already part of the Hot 100. Actually, it would make more sense to decrease sales/increase streaming, but whatever. Such a move would clearly go against their desires– it seems like no matter how low sales go, they still want them to have a consistent influence on the Hot 100. I disagree with that philosophy, but at least it's not really preventing the chart from being inaccurate. It's a pretty accurate chart right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thuggin Posted January 31, 2017 Share Posted January 31, 2017 Wait, so the influence of sales was increased? That's such a mess. With the sales market shrinking and the streaming market growing, how does that make sense? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexanderao Posted January 31, 2017 Author Share Posted January 31, 2017 Just now, Thuggin said: Wait, so the influence of sales was increased? That's such a mess. With the sales market shrinking and the streaming market growing, how does that make sense? It doesn't. As I described above, it's solely because they want to have sales maintain their influence (in the face of sales numbers rapidly shrinking). They're being stubborn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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