KeshaSwift Posted August 3, 2020 Share Posted August 3, 2020 Every country in the world stans ha but france. they're doing her so dirty . Well whatever french people are rude af anyways Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcohen Posted August 3, 2020 Share Posted August 3, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, GoodGuyGoneGhetto said: She just isn’t big commercial force in Europe, and never will be and that’s cool. Just like how Rihanna/Adele/Beyonce will NEVER see or come close to her stats. in China. Not every Pop Girl is going to dominate every market. Exactly. So what's the obsession with posting about it in every single European chart thread, every single era? We know this and we've know this so it is getting very repetitive. Let Swifties celebrate Taylor's Top 15 debut in France in peace. It honestly sometimes feels like a coping mechanism to deal with the slayage elsewhere Some popgirls sell 100k of an album in Europe now, others sell 1.5m in China. Everyone has their markets. No one goes in a Beyonce or Rihanna thread and claims they aren't global superstars because they bombed in Spotify Philippines. Why does it happen with Taylor? Edited August 3, 2020 by mcohen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loghen Posted August 3, 2020 Share Posted August 3, 2020 1 hour ago, Hot Volcano said: There is literally NO excuse for debuting at #138 with your lead single AND outside the top 10 with your album in such a big music market, so I don't even know why are some people trying it in here She simply never was a thing in France. Her fans are aware of that, what are you trying to do? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yesmine Posted August 3, 2020 Share Posted August 3, 2020 As far as non local music goes, France ****s with bubblegum pop smashes or latin influenced music Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peterstyles13 Posted August 3, 2020 Share Posted August 3, 2020 1 hour ago, GoodGuyGoneGhetto said: The way you constantly regurgitate this! Because it's the truth? Sorry that it's inconvenient for you to discuss Asian stats 1 hour ago, GoodGuyGoneGhetto said: I don’t understand how she can be referred to as “Global” because she’s big in ‘Asia’ but somehow having poor/underwhelming commercial numbers in one of the most influential and musically impactful continents in the world (with multiple big music markets) is irrelevant? Her stats. are dead in France and Germany and only satisfactory in the U.K & Ireland. Top 10 biggest markets in the world as per IFPI: 1. USA 2. Japan 3. UK 4. Germany 5. France 6. South Korea 7. China 8. Canada 9. Australia 10. Brazil By your own logic, you can't call your fave global because she has "poor/underwhelming commercial numbers" in Japan, China and South Korea then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoodGuyGoneGhetto Posted August 3, 2020 Share Posted August 3, 2020 5 minutes ago, peterstyles13 said: Because it's the truth? Sorry that it's inconvenient for you to discuss Asian stats Top 10 biggest markets in the world as per IFPI: 1. USA 2. Japan 3. UK 4. Germany 5. France 6. South Korea 7. China 8. Canada 9. Australia 10. Brazil By your own logic, you can't call your fave global because she has "poor/underwhelming commercial numbers" in Japan, China and South Korea then. So... Rihanna is BIG in: UK FRA GER CAN AUS BRA Taylor Swift is BIG in: CHI US SK JAP AUS CAN So they’re the same level as Global and clearly out-do eachother in particular markets? Is that it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peterstyles13 Posted August 3, 2020 Share Posted August 3, 2020 Just now, GoodGuyGoneGhetto said: So they’re the same level as Global and clearly out-do eachother in particular markets? Is that it? You literally tried to claim we can't call Taylor global because her stats are underwhelming in some of the biggest music markets as if the same thing doesn't apply to Rihanna Do you not see the hypocrisy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcohen Posted August 3, 2020 Share Posted August 3, 2020 2 minutes ago, peterstyles13 said: You literally tried to claim we can't call Taylor global because her stats are underwhelming in some of the biggest music markets as if the same thing doesn't apply to Rihanna Do you not see the hypocrisy No. Because for ATRL, Germany and France >>>>>>>>>>> China and Japan See the problem? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4Real Posted August 3, 2020 Share Posted August 3, 2020 4 hours ago, Taylor fanboy said: The way LOVER failed to captivate the french even with all the pandering for folklore to smash. It's still her highest charting album there tho... somehow ot: I don't understand why she performs sooooo poorly there nnn. Like, yeah she performs poorly in other european countries too, but it's so weird. As other people here have said, her pop music isn't exactly less digestible to french audiences than Ariana Grande's, for example. She needs to just ignore them anyways, just like they ignore ha. The fact that she played an exclusive show in Paris last year... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2AM Posted August 3, 2020 Share Posted August 3, 2020 Not a terrible debut. Anybody know how much it sold? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OrgVisual Posted August 4, 2020 Share Posted August 4, 2020 3 hours ago, mcohen said: Exactly. So what's the obsession with posting about it in every single European chart thread, every single era? We know this and we've know this so it is getting very repetitive. Let Swifties celebrate Taylor's Top 15 debut in France in peace. It honestly sometimes feels like a coping mechanism to deal with the slayage elsewhere Some popgirls sell 100k of an album in Europe now, others sell 1.5m in China. Everyone has their markets. No one goes in a Beyonce or Rihanna thread and claims they aren't global superstars because they bombed in Spotify Philippines. Why does it happen with Taylor? You having problem with people dismissing China as a major market yet you called France (in fact a bigger market) "local" and "no one cares" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcohen Posted August 4, 2020 Share Posted August 4, 2020 20 minutes ago, Sept said: You having problem with people dismissing China as a major market yet you called France (in fact a bigger market) "local" and "no one cares" Now you know how it feels Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taylor fanboy Posted August 4, 2020 Share Posted August 4, 2020 1 hour ago, mcohen said: Now you know how it feels Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skyandground Posted August 4, 2020 Share Posted August 4, 2020 12 hours ago, GoodGuyGoneGhetto said: Taylor Swift simply isn’t a force in France and never was and that goes for most of Europe. Regarding continental Europe, I think Northern Europeans are the most receptive to Taylor's music. At least they gave her surprise release a decent debut folklore: Norway: #1 Finland: #1 Belgium (Flanders): #1 The Netherlands: #2 Lithuania: #2 Belgium (Wallonia): #3 Sweden: #3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Right Now Posted August 4, 2020 Share Posted August 4, 2020 We have to stan France Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Luke Posted August 4, 2020 Author Share Posted August 4, 2020 7 hours ago, 2AM said: Not a terrible debut. Anybody know how much it sold? She sold about 1k digital copies: http://www.chartsinfrance.net/actualite/news-114642.html (Lover opened with 5.7k copies) Don’t know about the combined number though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tvfan Posted August 4, 2020 Share Posted August 4, 2020 5 hours ago, B-Luke said: She sold about 1k digital copies: http://www.chartsinfrance.net/actualite/news-114642.html (Lover opened with 5.7k copies) Don’t know about the combined number though. Around 3k. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BnPac Posted August 4, 2020 Share Posted August 4, 2020 17 hours ago, mcohen said: No one goes in a Beyonce thread and claims they aren't global superstars because they bombed in Spotify Philippines They do, all the time. —————— #12 is good for Taylor in France. Not far from top 10. Even some very popular pop stars in France don’t have a #1 album here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squall Posted August 4, 2020 Share Posted August 4, 2020 11 hours ago, Right Now said: We have to stan France Hilary Duff stan getting brave Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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