Green Posted July 17, 2019 Share Posted July 17, 2019 Which ones are the most undercertified female album artists in the US? Let's compare their known sales and SPS and their current certifications according to the RIAA: Janet Jackson Current RIAA certifications (million albums/units): 26 Eligible for: 37 million units Undercertified: 11 million units (at least) Janet Jackson Album Current RIAA Certification At least Eligible for: Control 5x Platinum 7x Platinum Rhythm Nation 1814 6x Platinum 8x Platinum Janet 6x Platinum 8x Platinum Design of a Decade 1986-1996 2x Platinum 4x Platinum The Velvet Rope 3x Platinum 4x Platinum All for You 2x Platinum 3x Platinum Damita Jo Platinum Platinum 20 Y.O. Platinum Platinum Discipline None Gold Unbreakable None N/A Number Ones None Gold TOTAL 26 37 Beyoncé: Current RIAA certifications (million albums/units): 15 Eligible for: 26 million units Undercertified: 11 million units (at least) Beyoncé Album Current RIAA Certification At least Eligible for: Dangerously in Love 4x Platinum 6x Platinum B'Day 3x Platinum 4x Platinum I Am... Sasha Fierce 2x Platinum 6x Platinum 4 Platinum 3x Platinum Beyoncé 2x Platinum 4x Platinum Lemonade 3x Platinum 3x Platinum TOTAL 15 26 Katy Perry: Current RIAA certifications (million albums/units): 6 Eligible for: 15.5 million units Undercertified: 9.5 million units (at least) Katy Perry Album Current RIAA Certification At least Eligible for: One of the Boys Platinum 3x Platinum Teenage Dream 3x Platinum 8x Platinum Prism 2x Platinum 4x Platinum Witness None Gold TOTAL 6 15.5 Lady Gaga: Current RIAA certifications (million albums/units): 10.5 Eligible for: 18.5 million units Undercertified: 8 million units (at least) Lady Gaga Album Current RIAA Certification At least Eligible for: The Fame 3x Platinum 9x Platinum The Fame Monster (EP) Platinum Platinum Born This Way 2x Platinum 4x Platinum ARTPOP Platinum Platinum Cheek to Cheek Gold Gold Joanne Platinum Platinum A Star Is Born 2x Platinum 2x Platinum TOTAL 10.5 18.5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mother Earth Posted July 17, 2019 Share Posted July 17, 2019 According to my calculations, both "2 On" and Aquarius are eligible for Diamond, but RCA refuses to update. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cryptique Posted July 17, 2019 Share Posted July 17, 2019 i'm still convincing myself that maybe they're waiting for The Fame to hit the 10M mark before the mass certification it's currently at 9.8-9.9M i guess Gaga's Singles cert is another story Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green Posted July 17, 2019 Author Share Posted July 17, 2019 By the way some of these stats could be even higher. For example Teenage Dream has 8.5 million units based only on the singles certifications and the album pure sales. But with the SPS of the rest of the album tracks it could easily be over 9x Platinum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cryptique Posted July 17, 2019 Share Posted July 17, 2019 7 minutes ago, Green said: By the way some of these stats could be even higher. For example Teenage Dream has 8.5 million units based only on the singles certifications and the album pure sales. But with the SPS of the rest of the album tracks it could easily be over 9x Platinum. i think Teenage Dream is almost at ~9M, last time i did a quick estimate it's at 8.8M, won't be surprised if it'll be certified 9x Plat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
State of Grace. Posted July 17, 2019 Share Posted July 17, 2019 The Fame being 3x Platinum when its almost ****ing DIAMOND Gaga’s singles certs are a mess too. ugh I wish the US had automatic certifications like the UK. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PULSE. Posted July 17, 2019 Share Posted July 17, 2019 BEYONCÉ would be 5xp I believe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tiagol88 Posted July 17, 2019 Share Posted July 17, 2019 Do you have that for Madonna? COADF is eligible for 2 x Platinum Hard Candy might be able to get a Platinum certification probably. You Can Dance or was it Who's That Girl (the soundtrack) was rumored to be able to have a 2 x Platinum by now. The Immaculate Collection could have 12 x Platinum if i remember it right Ray Of Light was rumored to be eligible for a 5th platinum one as well. But i'm not sure about most of these. Janet is so undercertified i- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trainsskyscrapers Posted July 17, 2019 Share Posted July 17, 2019 58 minutes ago, Green said: Beyoncé: Current RIAA certifications (million albums/units): 15 Eligible for: 26 million units Undercertified: 11 million units (at least) Beyoncé Album Current RIAA Certification At least Eligible for: Dangerously in Love 4x Platinum 6x Platinum B'Day 3x Platinum 4x Platinum I Am... Sasha Fierce 2x Platinum 6x Platinum 4 Platinum 3x Platinum Beyoncé 2x Platinum 4x Platinum Lemonade 3x Platinum 3x Platinum TOTAL 15 26 If you think her albums are uncertified..... her singles are ATROCIOUS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cityfolk Posted July 17, 2019 Share Posted July 17, 2019 Ariana Grande: Yours Truly: certified 1x, eligible 1x (same) My Everything: certified 2x, eligible 4x (according to various stan accounts, not sure - with the single SPS and album pure sales it's around 3.5 million) Dangerous Woman: certified 1x, eligible 2x Sweetener: certified 1x, eligible 1x (same) Thank U, Next: certified 1x, eligible 2x Certified: 6 Million Eligible: 10 Million (with Dangerous Woman soon to be 3x Platinum eligible and Sweetener 2x Platinum eligible.... Yours truly will one day reach 2x Platinum eligible with Ariana boosting it's recurrent stats slightly with each release ) Also for Taylor, 1989 is Diamond eligible, reputation 4x Plat eligible, and Red & Taylor Swift are probably both approaching 8x Platinum I'm surprised Crazy In Love is eligible for 6x Plat and not higher, wtf (I'm a stan of her) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1DES Posted July 17, 2019 Share Posted July 17, 2019 7 minutes ago, tiagol88 said: Do you have that for Madonna? COADF is eligible for 2 x Platinum Hard Candy might be able to get a Platinum certification probably. A mess. I thought these albums did way better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tiagol88 Posted July 17, 2019 Share Posted July 17, 2019 7 minutes ago, 1DES said: A mess. I thought these albums did way better. COADF had 1 top 10 hit and a top 60 hit. No one in the USA cared about dance music in 2005 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Wonder Posted July 17, 2019 Share Posted July 17, 2019 Janet should be embarrassed. RN1814 is closer to 9x platinum. It has moved 8.5 million as of 2011. And to think Janet's numbers are just hard sales without streaming added. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Temporal Posted July 17, 2019 Share Posted July 17, 2019 Kelly Clarkson Current RIAA certifications (million albums/units): 12 Eligible for: 16.5 million units Undercertified: 4 million units (at least) Kelly Clarkson Album Current RIAA Certification At least Eligible for: Thankful 2x Platinum 3x Platinum Breakaway 6x Platinum 7x Platinum My December 1x Platinum 1x Platinum All I Ever Wanted none 1x Platinum Stronger 1x Platinum 2x Platinum Greatest Hits: Chapter One 1x Gold 1x Platinum Wrapped in Red 1x Platinum 1x Platinum Piece by Piece 1x Gold 1x Gold Meaning of Life none 1x Woodchip Total 12 16.5 Guess it could be worse, but **** All I Ever Wanted not being certified after a decade is so aggravating Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G.U.Y_Del_Rey Posted July 17, 2019 Share Posted July 17, 2019 The Fame only being certified 3x Platinum Why is Gaga's label so inept Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robbyds Posted July 17, 2019 Share Posted July 17, 2019 I think Janet is at 40x platinum. Celine is also quite undercertified I heard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green Posted July 17, 2019 Author Share Posted July 17, 2019 9 hours ago, tiagol88 said: Do you have that for Madonna? COADF is eligible for 2 x Platinum Hard Candy might be able to get a Platinum certification probably. You Can Dance or was it Who's That Girl (the soundtrack) was rumored to be able to have a 2 x Platinum by now. The Immaculate Collection could have 12 x Platinum if i remember it right Ray Of Light was rumored to be eligible for a 5th platinum one as well. But i'm not sure about most of these. Janet is so undercertified i- Madonna: Current RIAA certifications (million albums/units): 64.5 Eligible for: 69 million units Undercertified: 4.5 million units (at least) Madonna Album Current RIAA Certification At least Eligible for: Madonna 5x Platinum 5x Platinum Like A Virgin 10x Platinum 10x Platinum True Blue 7x Platinum 7x Platinum Who’s That Girl Platinum Platinum You Can Dance Platinum Platinum Like A Prayer 4x Platinum 4x Platinum I’m Breathless 2x Platinum 2x Platinum The Immaculate Collection 10x Platinum 12x Platinum Erotica 2x Platinum 2x Platinum Bedtime Stories 3x Platinum 3x Platinum Something to Remember 3x Platinum 3x Platinum Evita 5x Platinum 5x Platinum Ray Of Light 4x Platinum 5x Platinum Music 3x Platinum 3x Platinum GHV2 Platinum Platinum American Life Platinum Platinum Confessions On A Dancefloor Platinum 2x Platinum Hard Candy Gold Platinum Celebration Gold Gold MDNA Gold Gold Rebel Heart None N/A Madame X None N/A TOTAL 64.5 69 Chartmasters has True Blue around 7.7 million pure sales so maybe it could be close to 8x Platinum with SPS but I don't know the SPS so I can't tell Another album that could be close to another certification is You Can Dance (according to Chartmasters is around 1.8 million pure sales) but I don't know if it has enough SPS to be 2x Platinum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slw84 Posted July 17, 2019 Share Posted July 17, 2019 Britney has sold 40m digital singles without streams and only has about 5.5’m certified album wise: im taking a break from work so I can’t convert using the spreadsheet but baby one more time current 14x plat not eligible for upgrade oops 10x platinum possibly eligible for 11x platinum britney 4x platinum eligible for 5x platinum a reach would be 6x platinum but 5 is on safe distance in the zone 2x platinum eligible for 4x platinum blackout is properly at platinum circus is platinum eligible for 3x platinum Femme fatale is platinum eligible for 2x platinum Britney Jean and glory are properly certified/uncertified gh mp is platinum eligible for 3x platinum if they pull an Eminem with the gh scenario the singles collection is eligible for gold based on 3 alone but if they pull an Eminem scenario that means it can go platinum with a reach of 2x platinum but most likely platinum so somewhere between 9-12m please confirm or correct: @Eternium Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slw84 Posted July 17, 2019 Share Posted July 17, 2019 4 hours ago, robbyds said: I think Janet is at 40x platinum. Celine is also quite undercertified I heard. 40x? Are you sure? I thought she was between 34-37x platinum? which albums have additional certs? 2 hours ago, Green said: Madonna: Current RIAA certifications (million albums/units): 64.5 Eligible for: 69 million units Undercertified: 4.5 million units (at least) Madonna Album Current RIAA Certification At least Eligible for: Madonna 5x Platinum 5x Platinum Like A Virgin 10x Platinum 10x Platinum True Blue 7x Platinum 7x Platinum Who’s That Girl Platinum Platinum You Can Dance Platinum Platinum Like A Prayer 4x Platinum 4x Platinum I’m Breathless 2x Platinum 2x Platinum The Immaculate Collection 10x Platinum 12x Platinum Erotica 2x Platinum 2x Platinum Bedtime Stories 3x Platinum 3x Platinum Something to Remember 3x Platinum 3x Platinum Evita 5x Platinum 5x Platinum Ray Of Light 4x Platinum 5x Platinum Music 3x Platinum 3x Platinum GHV2 Platinum Platinum American Life Platinum Platinum Confessions On A Dancefloor Platinum 2x Platinum Hard Candy Gold Platinum Celebration Gold Gold MDNA Gold Gold Rebel Heart None N/A Madame X None N/A TOTAL 64.5 69 Chartmasters has True Blue around 7.7 million pure sales so maybe it could be close to 8x Platinum with SPS but I don't know the SPS so I can't tell Another album that could be close to another certification is You Can Dance (according to Chartmasters is around 1.8 million pure sales) but I don't know if it has enough SPS to be 2x Platinum. Mariah and Madonna are only .5m off each other currently I wonder how far off they are based on eligibility Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slw84 Posted July 17, 2019 Share Posted July 17, 2019 @Green this is great would be Nice if you could creat a consolidated master post for the main pop girls. you organized it quite well for your one example kworb is shaking Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nemo Posted July 17, 2019 Share Posted July 17, 2019 11 hours ago, tiagol88 said: Do you have that for Madonna? COADF is eligible for 2 x Platinum the us really dropped her after music isn’t it “diamond” ww? its almost like the opposite of mariah’s teom which sold about the same as coadf but the majority of those sales are domestic. but to be fair, madonna is the most GLOBAL pop girl, only rivaled by céline, whitney & rihanna tbh. ot: janet and bey Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TKO Posted July 17, 2019 Share Posted July 17, 2019 TD should be 9x platinum Maybe she's waiting for that diamond cert Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tiagol88 Posted July 17, 2019 Share Posted July 17, 2019 27 minutes ago, slw84 said: 40x? Are you sure? I thought she was between 34-37x platinum? which albums have additional certs? Mariah and Madonna are only .5m off each other currently I wonder how far off they are based on eligibility But Mariah is overcertified with some albums while Madonna is undercertified. If both had their certifications in order, their gap would be even bigger. If Madonna played her cards right she could even surpass Barbra Streisand. Isn't she like 71 x Platinum overall? Madonna could be at least 69 x Platinum for sure and some others are in doubt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eternium Posted July 17, 2019 Share Posted July 17, 2019 Britney BOMT - 14x P - 14x P OIDIA - Diamond - 11x P Britney - 4x P - 5x P ITZ - P - 4x P GH:MP - P - 2x P Blackout - P - P Circus - P - 3x P TSC - NA - Gold FF - P - 2x P BJ - G - G Glory - NA - NA Britney’s certified 33.5x P but should be 41x P. Keep in mind that they can split catalog SPS between the parent album and compilation albums. So BOMT (the single) could legitimately have its units split between the parent album until 2003 then the first compilation album until 2009 and then the second compilation album. Her team is stupid and I truly believe they’d do that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slw84 Posted July 17, 2019 Share Posted July 17, 2019 1 hour ago, tiagol88 said: But Mariah is overcertified with some albums while Madonna is undercertified. If both had their certifications in order, their gap would be even bigger. If Madonna played her cards right she could even surpass Barbra Streisand. Isn't she like 71 x Platinum overall? Madonna could be at least 69 x Platinum for sure and some others are in doubt. Ok Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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