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Do you think the trend of antisemitism among muslims is absurd given that Islam could not exist without Judaism ? One could argue that Islam's entire religious foundation was taken from Judaism 

 

edit: this was intended to be a disucssion centered on theology but then it devolved into an israel/palestine discussion

 

so im just gonna leave and check back to see if anyone says something insightful or worth responding to 

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Because Israel stole Palestinian land

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Just now, Diarrhoea said:

Because Israel stole Palestinian land

but antisemitism always existed before israel-palestine situation 

 

i just found it peculiar how you can hate on a religious group whose religion is the source of your own 

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Just now, Diarrhoea said:

Because Israel stole Palestinian land

Jews were already treated like crap in Muslim majority countries before the establishment of Israel.

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Just now, ProudLBS said:

Jews were already treated like crap in Muslim majority countries before the establishment of Israel.

They were treated like crap everywhere before the establishment of Israel. We just got over it because it was reasonless and bigotry, whilst Muslim-majority countries still have reasons (which should be directed at Israel not Jews but)

 

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It's in the Quran to not take Jews as your friends and that Jews are dirty like dogs. Muhammad hated Jewish tribes because they wouldn't convert to Islam so he would slay them. Basically any non-Muslim is considered a 'Dhimmi' in Islamic society and Jews were seen as the bottom of the totem pole and that's why we were treated so badly. Jews were one of the few groups that would never convert to Islam which made us targets from the start. 

Israel has nothing to do with antisemitism as we were hated long before that, it's just that the founding of Israel made it more worse and the situation more dire. Had there been no Israel, my family and millions of other families in the Middle East/North Africa would have been killed in the pogroms that were happening. It varied country to country but in Yemen where my family was from, it was one of the worst places to be a Jew just look up the Mawza Exile and Aden Riots of 1947 where the synagogue was burned, children were killed, women raped, and the entire Jewish quarter was set on fire. 

 

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Just now, Diarrhoea said:

They were treated like crap everywhere before the establishment of Israel. We just got over it because it was reasonless and bigotry, whilst Muslim-majority countries still have reasons (which should be directed at Israel not Jews but)

 

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Whitewashing antisemitism? Wow

 

And how is Israel occupying Palestinian land when Jews are the ones that are indigenous to the region, not Egyptian, Saudi, Bosnian and Algerian arabs?

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Just now, ProudLBS said:

Whitewashing antisemitism? Wow

 

And how is Israel occupying Palestinian land when Jews are the ones that are indigenous to the region, not Egyptian, Saudi, Bosnian and Algerian arabs?

A long time ago before international law existed

 

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Just now, Diarrhoea said:

A long time ago before international law existed

 

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And then for the first time in History those non-indigenous inhabitants were offered a state of their own and they refused. Their loss.

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Just now, ProudLBS said:

 And then for the first time in History those non-indigenous inhabitants were offered a state of their own and they refused. Their loss.

Yes, when they were forcibly resettled and made homeless like all the other examples of that working x

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i honestly dont know any jews IRL so i never thought this was such a big thing. im atheist anyway so i dont care or check for religious people. period

 

edit: just read the title again. idk then 

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Antisemitism runs rampant in the West and right on this very forum. Jews were expelled from just about every country, even England. 

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1 minute ago, Judas Bertha said:

i honestly dont know any jews IRL so i never thought this was such a big thing. im atheist anyway so i dont care or check for religious people. period

It’s not just a religion, it’s also an ethnicity. 

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9 minutes ago, Rowan said:

It's in the Quran to not take Jews as your friends and that Jews are dirty like dogs. Muhammad hated Jewish tribes because they wouldn't convert to Islam so he would slay them. Basically any non-Muslim is considered a 'Dhimmi' in Islamic society and Jews were seen as the bottom of the totem pole and that's why we were treated so badly. Jews were one of the few groups that would never convert to Islam which made us targets from the start. 

Israel has nothing to do with antisemitism as we were hated long before that, it's just that the founding of Israel made it more worse and the situation more dire. Had there been no Israel, my family and millions of other families in the Middle East/North Africa would have been killed in the pogroms that were happening. It varied country to country but in Yemen where my family was from, it was one of the worst places to be a Jew just look up the Mawza Exile and Aden Riots of 1947 where the synagogue was burned, children were killed, women raped, and the entire Jewish quarter was set on fire. 

 

Were your relatives transported to Israel under Operation Magic Carpet?

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Islam is based on hating everything that is considered an infidel, which includes Jews :michael:

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9 minutes ago, Diarrhoea said:

Yes, when they were forcibly resettled and made homeless like all the other examples of that working x

you riot against the newly formed state  - because you refused to have one of your own or integrate -  and ask the neighboring arab states to invade said state, of course you're homeless lmao

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Islam is intolerant of others faiths, even other branches of their religion by default. But most Muslims today don't like Jews because of the Israel-Palestine conflict 

 

16 minutes ago, Diarrhoea said:

They were treated like crap everywhere before the establishment of Israel. We just got over it because it was reasonless and bigotry, whilst Muslim-majority countries still have reasons (which should be directed at Israel not Jews but)

I wouldn't say it was reasonless. During the medieval era, banking was considered a sin by Christians so the Jews took advantage of that and dominated that industry. It's no different from today with our high distrust in the banks, we just don't assign any religion to it anymore. 

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For the same reason antisemitism is prominent in Christian communities. Theological reasoning that suggests faiths other than one's own are often illegitimate or sinful. 

 

As well, theological antisemitism isn't the one type of antisemitism and it's silly to ignore how scientific antisemitism was a product of Europeans and Europeans have largely caused the most suffering for Jews. Anti-communism itself even originates from antisemitism. "Globalist" is literally an antisemitic snarl term originating from the belief that Bolshevik Jews would take over Europe, something nazis literally promoted the idea of with false claims of genocidal famines happening in the Ukraine as evidence that the German people needed to act now and snuff out the Jewish Socialist Threat awaiting Europe.

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4 minutes ago, Horizon Flame said:

It’s not just a religion, it’s also an ethnicity. 

i see. so basically, its racism (even tho its not a race)?

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4 minutes ago, ProudLBS said:

Were your relatives transported to Israel under Operation Magic Carpet?

Yes. This is a great video about it.

 

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1 minute ago, ProudLBS said:

you riot against the newly formed state  - because you refused to have one of your own - and ask the neighboring arab states to invade said state, of course you're homeless lmao

Yes, the rioted against the newly formed state comprised of Palestinian settlements because they don't like being made homeless and ask sympathetic states to help them get their homes back x

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