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15 hours ago, thedastardly said:

Tbh, ticket bundles shouldn't count either unless BB can prove part of the concert price will be financially seen as a CD sale, because let's face it, those tickets would have sold with or without the album. It's like putting perfume samples in magazines and saying you sold 20,000 units of perfume because 20,000 people bought the magazine.

Or perhaps the ticket bundles should count, but only during the week of the concert when the entire bundle has been redeemed. There have been cases where ticket bundles were used and some of the shows were cancelled. The people that ordered the tickets got refunds (and kept their free album).

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Good! Next thing, fix that SPS bull****. Let 'Album Sales' be actually based on how much albums sell.

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Good. Bundles shouldn't be a thing at all, IMO.

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it's crazy how merch bundle never had redeem.

mess.

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Finally and it all thanks to the untalented clown getting pressed the album went #2 and try to sue Billboard. :bibliahh:

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DJ Khaled ruining things for everyone. A LOSER.

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Ariana should have done tour bundles. She could have debuted 500K units with Tu,n. :shakeno:

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They shouldn't count at all. All this extra **** is unnecessary. An album purchase or stream should be where it ends. Period. 

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I don’t understand how not counting album bundles makes sense?

 

If that’s the case, streams should only count based off of plays of the ENTIRE album through and not just 1-3 of the most played singles.

 

Album sales are dying, if anything they should be ensuring more creative ways to promote album sales.

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Remove streaming as part of the equation while they are at it.

I dont care what they say but streaming the same song 1566355x is not the same as buying the album. 

Streams should only be part of the equation for singles. Including it in the album charts' calculation is the biggest mistake they made.

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22 hours ago, Venus XCX said:

NM5 delayed until 2020? :noparty: 

:bibliahh:

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36 minutes ago, robbyds said:

Remove streaming as part of the equation while they are at it.

I dont care what they say but streaming the same song 1566355x is not the same as buying the album. 

Streams should only be part of the equation for singles. Including it in the album charts' calculation is the biggest mistake they made.

then their albums chart would quickly become inaccurate and irrelevant 

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52 minutes ago, moonlight! said:

then their albums chart would quickly become inaccurate and irrelevant 

It would actually be more accurate because it will measure what album actually SOLD the most in a given week as opposed to what song/s are being streamed the most which is already reflected in the hot 100.

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It's well known that the album needs to be redeemed in order to count:

 

Chesney’s new album was powered almost entirely by traditional album sales, whose sum was generated largely by a concert ticket/album sale redemption promotion with Chesney’s 2018 stadium tour. The cost of the CD of Chesney’s album was bundled into the price of each ticket sold online for his tour (which went on sale Sept. 22). After purchasing a ticket, customers received (via email) a redemption offer for the album, where they could choose to redeem the CD and have it mailed to them. The only sales that count towards the charts are those albums that are redeemed by customers. Many ticket buyers never redeem the offer.

 

https://www.billboard.com/articles/columns/chart-beat/8023170/kenny-chesney-live-in-no-shoes-nation-billboard-200-no-1

 

Further to this is the offset ratio of tickets to Kenny's tour to his actual numbers:

 

Nielsen Music does not detail how much of any album’s sales are generated by concert ticket/album bundle offers. However, CD sales from ticket bundles are generally categorized as internet sales by the company, and Live in No Shoes Nation’s internet sales figure is 197,000. So, it’s likely most of that number is from the ticket bundle — minus a small amount (perhaps in the low five-figures) — for traditional sales from Amazon and other web retailers.

 

- When he announced the Trip Around The Sun Tour it was 18 shows and if every single ticket (obviously not likely) was sold out within the period of the charting week for Live In No Shoes Nation it would have been up to 854,000 (minus the St. Louis which never had a boxscore sent in), and yet his redemption numbers were guessed to be under 200,000.

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Energy Drink bundles? This is stupid. WTF. So these energy cost what 2? 3 dollars and your album costs less than that? It talks about the quality of the music you put out.

 

If any, it should be an album bundled with the energy drink. This makes it cheap and embarrassing. Billboard should not count bundled albums to a cheaper product or a product less than the standard 7.99. Imo, it's stupid and makes the chart cheap.

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12 hours ago, robbyds said:

It would actually be more accurate because it will measure what album actually SOLD the most in a given week as opposed to what song/s are being streamed the most which is already reflected in the hot 100.

They created a Top Album Sales chart for that. The Billboard 200 ranks the most popular albums every week and ignoring streaming (the biggest source of consumption nowadays) would render the chart completely inaccurate 

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Bundles should count only if you buy the item worth higher or equal to an album price. Say paying 50$ and getting a t shirt with the album 

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5 hours ago, Marvin said:

They created a Top Album Sales chart for that. The Billboard 200 ranks the most popular albums every week and ignoring streaming (the biggest source of consumption nowadays) would render the chart completely inaccurate 

Then wouldn’t it make more sense to just get rid of the Hot 200 being that it’s pretty much just another singles chart? Streaming has pretty much made the album pointless anyway 

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Bundles should never have counted unless bundled with a concert ticket and maybe not at all.  This way if they dont count at all we can see the real popularity of the album. 

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It's over for the bundle girls. :fan:

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the bundled price has to be set over the pure album price. how bout that?

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As long as the bundle is more expensive than the cost of the album, I don’t see an issue. 

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Good. The whole bundle business has gotten out of hand, get rid of them altogether.

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I personally have no problem with the bundled album idea. If it results in actually selling an album/CD instead of just streaming it, then all for album bundles!

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