sadnews Posted June 11, 2019 Share Posted June 11, 2019 it's crazy how merch bundle never had redeem. mess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
discreetinside Posted June 11, 2019 Share Posted June 11, 2019 Finally and it all thanks to the untalented clown getting pressed the album went #2 and try to sue Billboard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green Posted June 11, 2019 Share Posted June 11, 2019 DJ Khaled ruining things for everyone. A LOSER. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jude Posted June 11, 2019 Share Posted June 11, 2019 Ariana should have done tour bundles. She could have debuted 500K units with Tu,n. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
6_INCH_HEELS Posted June 11, 2019 Share Posted June 11, 2019 They shouldn't count at all. All this extra **** is unnecessary. An album purchase or stream should be where it ends. Period. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mezik Posted June 11, 2019 Share Posted June 11, 2019 I don’t understand how not counting album bundles makes sense? If that’s the case, streams should only count based off of plays of the ENTIRE album through and not just 1-3 of the most played singles. Album sales are dying, if anything they should be ensuring more creative ways to promote album sales. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robbyds Posted June 11, 2019 Share Posted June 11, 2019 Remove streaming as part of the equation while they are at it. I dont care what they say but streaming the same song 1566355x is not the same as buying the album. Streams should only be part of the equation for singles. Including it in the album charts' calculation is the biggest mistake they made. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badboidami Posted June 11, 2019 Share Posted June 11, 2019 22 hours ago, Venus XCX said: NM5 delayed until 2020? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moonlight! Posted June 11, 2019 Share Posted June 11, 2019 36 minutes ago, robbyds said: Remove streaming as part of the equation while they are at it. I dont care what they say but streaming the same song 1566355x is not the same as buying the album. Streams should only be part of the equation for singles. Including it in the album charts' calculation is the biggest mistake they made. then their albums chart would quickly become inaccurate and irrelevant Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robbyds Posted June 11, 2019 Share Posted June 11, 2019 52 minutes ago, moonlight! said: then their albums chart would quickly become inaccurate and irrelevant It would actually be more accurate because it will measure what album actually SOLD the most in a given week as opposed to what song/s are being streamed the most which is already reflected in the hot 100. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LoveLiveMusic Posted June 11, 2019 Share Posted June 11, 2019 It's well known that the album needs to be redeemed in order to count: Chesney’s new album was powered almost entirely by traditional album sales, whose sum was generated largely by a concert ticket/album sale redemption promotion with Chesney’s 2018 stadium tour. The cost of the CD of Chesney’s album was bundled into the price of each ticket sold online for his tour (which went on sale Sept. 22). After purchasing a ticket, customers received (via email) a redemption offer for the album, where they could choose to redeem the CD and have it mailed to them. The only sales that count towards the charts are those albums that are redeemed by customers. Many ticket buyers never redeem the offer. https://www.billboard.com/articles/columns/chart-beat/8023170/kenny-chesney-live-in-no-shoes-nation-billboard-200-no-1 Further to this is the offset ratio of tickets to Kenny's tour to his actual numbers: Nielsen Music does not detail how much of any album’s sales are generated by concert ticket/album bundle offers. However, CD sales from ticket bundles are generally categorized as internet sales by the company, and Live in No Shoes Nation’s internet sales figure is 197,000. So, it’s likely most of that number is from the ticket bundle — minus a small amount (perhaps in the low five-figures) — for traditional sales from Amazon and other web retailers. - When he announced the Trip Around The Sun Tour it was 18 shows and if every single ticket (obviously not likely) was sold out within the period of the charting week for Live In No Shoes Nation it would have been up to 854,000 (minus the St. Louis which never had a boxscore sent in), and yet his redemption numbers were guessed to be under 200,000. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jomarr Posted June 11, 2019 Share Posted June 11, 2019 (edited) Energy Drink bundles? This is stupid. WTF. So these energy cost what 2? 3 dollars and your album costs less than that? It talks about the quality of the music you put out. If any, it should be an album bundled with the energy drink. This makes it cheap and embarrassing. Billboard should not count bundled albums to a cheaper product or a product less than the standard 7.99. Imo, it's stupid and makes the chart cheap. Edited June 11, 2019 by jomarr typo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ATRL Moderator Azulito Posted June 12, 2019 ATRL Moderator Share Posted June 12, 2019 12 hours ago, robbyds said: It would actually be more accurate because it will measure what album actually SOLD the most in a given week as opposed to what song/s are being streamed the most which is already reflected in the hot 100. They created a Top Album Sales chart for that. The Billboard 200 ranks the most popular albums every week and ignoring streaming (the biggest source of consumption nowadays) would render the chart completely inaccurate Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RudeBoy93 Posted June 12, 2019 Share Posted June 12, 2019 Bundles should count only if you buy the item worth higher or equal to an album price. Say paying 50$ and getting a t shirt with the album Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ari29 Posted June 12, 2019 Share Posted June 12, 2019 5 hours ago, Marvin said: They created a Top Album Sales chart for that. The Billboard 200 ranks the most popular albums every week and ignoring streaming (the biggest source of consumption nowadays) would render the chart completely inaccurate Then wouldn’t it make more sense to just get rid of the Hot 200 being that it’s pretty much just another singles chart? Streaming has pretty much made the album pointless anyway Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adonis Posted June 12, 2019 Share Posted June 12, 2019 Bundles should never have counted unless bundled with a concert ticket and maybe not at all. This way if they dont count at all we can see the real popularity of the album. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aesthetic bih Posted June 12, 2019 Share Posted June 12, 2019 It's over for the bundle girls. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diocles Posted June 12, 2019 Share Posted June 12, 2019 Poor Katy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
truthteller Posted June 12, 2019 Share Posted June 12, 2019 the bundled price has to be set over the pure album price. how bout that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QueenBLadyG Posted June 12, 2019 Share Posted June 12, 2019 As long as the bundle is more expensive than the cost of the album, I don’t see an issue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gossip_Boy Posted June 12, 2019 Share Posted June 12, 2019 Good. The whole bundle business has gotten out of hand, get rid of them altogether. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brianc33710 Posted June 13, 2019 Share Posted June 13, 2019 I personally have no problem with the bundled album idea. If it results in actually selling an album/CD instead of just streaming it, then all for album bundles! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Letemtalk Posted June 13, 2019 Share Posted June 13, 2019 People need stop with this idea that only "real sales" count and getting a free album with a concert ticket or a tee-shirt is a real album sale where the album was SOLD to someone. Someone was offered free stuff when they purchased something else, so they clicked on a link to get free stuff. The people streaming music are real music consumers, just like the people that drive a car from a car leasing company are real car drivers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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