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Adonis
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What Spotify is demanding is something very different. After using the App Store for years to dramatically grow their business, Spotify seeks to keep all the benefits of the App Store ecosystem — including the substantial revenue that they draw from the App Store’s customers — without making any contributions to that marketplace. At the same time, they distribute the music you love while making ever-smaller contributions to the artists, musicians and songwriters who create it — even going so far as to take these creators to court.
 

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Spotify wants all the benefits of a free app without being free.

A full 84 percent of the apps in the App Store pay nothing to Apple when you download or use the app. That’s not discrimination, as Spotify claims; it’s by design:
  • Apps that are free to you aren’t charged by Apple.
  • Apps that earn revenue exclusively through advertising — like some of your favorite free games — aren’t charged by Apple.
  • App business transactions where users sign up or purchase digital goods outside the app aren’t charged by Apple.
  • Apps that sell physical goods — including ride-hailing and food delivery services, to name a few — aren’t charged by Apple.
The only contribution that Apple requires is for digital goods and services that are purchased inside the app using our secure in-app purchase system. As Spotify points out, that revenue share is 30 percent for the first year of an annual subscription — but they left out that it drops to 15 percent in the years after.

 

 

 

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Timber

Both of them should sue each other and go bankrupt so Tidal can finally take over the industry.

 

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Reinvention

This is dumb. They can't afford to pay artists more because of the chokehold Apple has them under. Think people.

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DUA LIPA

so apple said the same thing that's been said 298 times about spotify already and doesn't have much to do with the serious antitrust complaints multiple companies are backing up against apple? cool.

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thedastardly

Apple is full of ****. AM comes bundled in with every overpriced iPhone and Mac in the world giving them an advantage Spotify doesn't have. Apple makes its revenues from millions of other things so they can afford to pay out more. Spotify didn't start making profits till last year. Apple burst out the gate with dozens of celebrity endorsements which Spotify never uses. Apple has the power in this scenario and they know it. 

 

But mostly both of these corporates are worth billions and both chasing more profits so idgaf how much poetry they wax about caring about artists 🤷🏽‍♀️All I know is Spotify has better playlists.

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Navyofbadgals
6 minutes ago, DUA LIPA said:

so apple said the same thing that's been said 298 times about spotify already and doesn't have much to do the serious antitrust complaints multiple companies are backing up against apple? cool.

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Adonis

Spotify is trying to get out of paying artists their faire share...even going as far as to rail against a court ordering them to pay artists more.

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Adonis

Just this week, Spotify sued music creators after a decision by the US Copyright Royalty Board required Spotify to increase its royalty payments. This isn’t just wrong, it represents a real, meaningful and damaging step backwards for the music industry.

 

spotify doesnt want to pay artists what they are owed.

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TinkerbellClap

The way Apple didn't even fully focus on what Spotify said but brought up other things just so they can look good. :ahh: Losers. 

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ibreathepop

I am a Spotify Stan but this whole thing was a stupid idea. It’s gonna he more image damaging in the end than it will bring them money. 

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Mercy
6 minutes ago, TinkerbellClap said:

The way Apple didn't even fully focus on what Spotify said but brought up other things just so they can look good. :ahh: Losers. 

They answered and debunked every claim Spotify made in their full statement at the link.

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SHRINE
8 minutes ago, TinkerbellClap said:

The way Apple didn't even fully focus on what Spotify said but brought up other things just so they can look good. :ahh: Losers. 

Apart from they did address the main points, primarily Spotify making a point about Apple’s “30% tax” - which is true, but only for the first year where after it halves. 

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Archetype
38 minutes ago, Reinvention said:

This is dumb. They can't afford to pay artists more because of the chokehold Apple has them under. Think people.

Spotify can afford to pay artists, they just don’t want to because they built their company on a non-sustainable free-to-listen tier that obviously ate up all of their revenue for a majority of the company’s existence.  It’s like taking out loans to build a house you clearly cannot afford and then refusing to pay the construction workers when the minimum wage increases.  

 

Spotify really loves playing the clueless dumb bitch, don’t they?  I love the services and playlists they provide, but they really need to figure their **** out if they want to not be eaten up by Apple. 

49 minutes ago, Timber said:

Both of them should sue each other and go bankrupt so Tidal can finally take over the industry.

The fact that Tidal still exists is pretty mind blowing.  They stopped trying to compete with Apple and Spotify, and instead focused on catering towards a small niche group of audiophiles who will pay more.

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Judas Bertha
51 minutes ago, thedastardly said:

Apple is full of ****. AM comes bundled in with every overpriced iPhone and Mac in the world giving them an advantage Spotify doesn't have. Apple makes its revenues from millions of other things so they can afford to pay out more. Spotify didn't start making profits till last year. Apple burst out the gate with dozens of celebrity endorsements which Spotify never uses. Apple has the power in this scenario and they know it. 

 

But mostly both of these corporates are worth billions and both chasing more profits so idgaf how much poetry they wax about caring about artists 🤷🏽‍♀️All I know is Spotify has better playlists.

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Haus
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only a tiny fraction of their subscriptions fall under Apple’s revenue-sharing model. Spotify is asking for that number to be zero.

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can yall please do some DEDUCTIVE REASONING before crying about the 30% cut? VERY FEW subscribers pay that way. it's arbitrary as hell for a subscription service to accept monthly fees that way. netflix stopped doing it altogether. it's literally just a talking point for them to harm apple. 

 

it shows that most of you didn't even read this. 

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Haus
27 minutes ago, Archetype said:

Spotify can afford to pay artists, they just don’t want to because they built their company on a non-sustainable free-to-listen tier that obviously ate up all of their revenue for a majority of the company’s existence.  It’s like taking out loans to build a house you clearly cannot afford and then refusing to pay the construction workers when the minimum wage increases.  

yup. moviepass teas. spotify's business approach single-handedly devalued the music industry forever. they set the 9.99/month standard, and that didn't prove to be enough to counter the numbers of users they got hooked on paying 0.00/month. 

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