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Ariana is a main pop girl now, but is she the weakest one?

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Fenty The Great

Compared to every other girl who has held the main pop girl title (Taylor, Adele, Rihanna, Beyonce, Katy, Gaga, Britney and even Miley) all of Ariana's accomplishments to date seem quite weak. She finally secured her first #1 on her 5th album, but she objectively doesn't feel comparable to the main girl's accomplishments, awards, sales, or impact on any metric....besides streaming.

 

(Cue Arianators running in here with only streaming receipts despite me acknowledging this in the OP).

 

She debuted in 2013 right before the streaming era really took off and pop girls were still securing huge hits, yet...

 

 

Ariana is now undoubtedly a main pop girl now, but is she honestly the weakest one to date?

 

 

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Needy

 

Gosh why does your opinion change so much when it comes to her :skull:

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The newest person to join a club is usually the weakest. Brand new concept, is it? :eek: 

 

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WeFoundTrouble

Girl, 1. Main/major pop girl is not a real thing; 2. There’s no such thing as the “weakest.” they all have strengths and weaknesses.

 

touring: Taylor > Bey > Adele > Gaga > Katy > Rihanna > Ariana

album sales: Adele > Taylor > Bey > Gaga > Rihanna > Katy > Ariana

single sales: Taylor = Katy(?) > Adele > Rihanna > Bey > Gaga > Ariana

STREAMING: Ariana > Rihanna > Taylor = Adele > Bey > Katy > Gaga

awards: Bey = Taylor = Adele > Gaga > Rihanna > Ariana = Katy

acclaim: Bey > Adele > Taylor > Gaga > Ariana > Rihanna > Katy

 

as you see its a mixed bag.

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Fenty The Great
1 minute ago, Sweetener said:

 

Gosh why does your opinion change so much when it comes to her :skull:

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The newest person to join a club is usually the weakest. Brand new concept, is it? :eek: 

 

Biggest ex act does not a main pop girl make. My opinion hasn't changed at all :deadbanana:

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Needy
1 minute ago, Fenty The Great said:

Biggest ex act does not a main pop girl make. My opinion hasn't changed at all :deadbanana:

There's something wrong if you make three threads praising and three threads attempting to get dragged the same person :deadbanana2: 

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Fenty The Great
8 minutes ago, WeFoundTrouble said:

Girl, 1. Main/major pop girl is not a real thing; 2. There’s no such thing as the “weakest.” they all have strengths and weaknesses.

 

touring: Taylor > Bey > Adele > Gaga > Katy > Rihanna > Ariana

album sales: Adele > Taylor > Bey > Gaga > Rihanna > Katy > Ariana

single sales: Taylor = Katy(?) > Adele > Rihanna > Bey > Gaga > Ariana

STREAMING: Ariana > Rihanna > Taylor = Adele > Bey > Katy > Gaga

awards: Bey = Taylor = Adele > Gaga > Rihanna > Ariana = Katy

acclaim: Bey > Adele > Taylor > Gaga > Ariana > Rihanna > Katy

 

as you see its a mixed bag.

 

This is exactly what I mean. She's last on every metric (you really tried it with the acclaim ahead of Rihanna :lmao:).

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Marvin

Her sales can’t be compared to the other girls because they debuted when sales were still strong, and were able to sustain a fan base that still buys their music in the streaming era.

 

She has two critically acclaimed albums and is coming for Grammys and her biggest tour yet next year. 

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Vespertine

Biggest on streaming IS a big deal though :skull: She is 100% a streaming force, so it makes sense that her pure sales don’t compare to the other girls (who all debuted and mostly peaked well before streaming took over). 

 

Streaming has almost entirely replaced sales. When will you all get it through your heads? :skull:

 

And she has time to grow in touring. Minus the Monster Ball, none of the girls in the OP had big tours until well into their careers. Taylor and Beyoncé weren’t regularly doing stadiums after 5 years either. 

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Mezter

I mean, as long as you guys can admit it now :fan: 

 

Ariana debuted in 2013. The earliest person to debut from that list besides her is Gaga who debuted in 2008. Clearly she has had the least time to prove herself and in a completely different era :celestial5:  

 

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Thinking Of You

Considering we’re moving into the 2020s with streaming as the forefront for music consumption (just as Gaga, Katy, etc. were for the digital era), she’s actually the strongest alongside Rihanna. 

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Love Galore

it's actually kinda sad that it took her this long to secure a #1 song despite being a so called "Streaming Force" in the Streaming Era :celestial5:

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qurl

all that matters is that she’s one of the biggest , most talked about , and most captivating pop stars putting out music right now and if her streams / numbers are any indication , the public is very much here for this new era of hers

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iiSuperManii

I vividly remember the Ariana = main pop girl threads after the release of GIAM music video and both the song and the video ended up underperforming

achieving/doing something an MPG did at certain point doesn't make you one

All the big acts had astonishing eras and numbers/longevity 

Teenage Dream, LOUD, 1989, The Fame Monster, IAm...SF and others, those new girls don't have this 

her/her team are already moving on to a new album/era since Sweetener kinda has nothing more to offer

 

I am still glad that a pop girl is snatching in 2018

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Mezter
4 minutes ago, Love Galore said:

it's actually kinda sad that it took her this long to secure a #1 song despite being a so called "Streaming Force" in the Streaming Era :celestial5:

Well, Problem got blocked by one of the decades biggest songs by just a point and No Tears got blocked by the biggest artist this year. I'd say that's impressive for a non MPG :celestial5: 

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BoyAlmighty
8 minutes ago, Love Galore said:

it's actually kinda sad that it took her this long to secure a #1 song despite being a so called "Streaming Force" in the Streaming Era :celestial5:

Taylor's a sales force, yet it took 6 years to get a #1 :celestial5:

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Love Galore
6 minutes ago, Mezter said:

Well, Problem got blocked by one of the decades biggest songs by just a point and No Tears got blocked by the biggest artist this year. I'd say that's impressive for a non MPG :celestial5: 

and all her other Billboard 100 entries would also have been #1 if they hadn't been blocked by all the other artists ahead :celestial5:

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Say Da Barbie®

using only pure sales receipts for an artist that blew up in a post-streaming market and who’s main demographic are young people who stream their music makes sense! 

 

what a drag! 

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stronger23
30 minutes ago, WeFoundTrouble said:

Girl, 1. Main/major pop girl is not a real thing; 2. There’s no such thing as the “weakest.” they all have strengths and weaknesses.

 

touring: Taylor > Bey > Adele > Gaga > Katy > Rihanna > Ariana

album sales: Adele > Taylor > Bey > Gaga > Rihanna > Katy > Ariana

single sales: Taylor = Katy(?) > Adele > Rihanna > Bey > Gaga > Ariana

STREAMING: Ariana > Rihanna > Taylor = Adele > Bey > Katy > Gaga

awards: Bey = Taylor = Adele > Gaga > Rihanna > Ariana = Katy

acclaim: Bey > Adele > Taylor > Gaga > Ariana > Rihanna > Katy

 

as you see its a mixed bag.

Did U really put Taylor above Beyoncé In touring ? Sis ...bye 

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Mezter
9 minutes ago, Love Galore said:

and all her other Billboard 100 entries would also have been #1 if they hadn't been blocked by all the other artists ahead :celestial5:

False equivalency, but you tried though

Love Galore

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