charts discussion US Airplay Discussion

[brianc33710]

I'm almost certain that Meant To Be is the first song to chart on BB's Country and Rhythmic charts at the same time. She and FGL are top 3 in Country, Hot AC, and Country. She's also slowly climbing then and AC, Rhythmic, and Dance/Remix shows charts top potential for MTB.

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2 hours ago, Mediabase said:

She has 3 songs charting on Top40 radio and all 3 got positive updates today!

 

[iHype.]

2 hours ago, brianc33710 said:

I'm almost certain that Meant To Be is the first song to chart on BB's Country and Rhythmic charts at the same time. 

 

We Are Never Ever Getting Back Together achieved this. 

 

October 13, 2012:

#38 - Rhythmic

#21 - Country

 

You're Still the One also achieved this.

 

July 4, 1998:

#24 - Rhythmic

#30 - Country

[brianc33710]

42 minutes ago, iHype. said:

We Are Never Ever Getting Back Together achieved this. 

 

October 13, 2012:

#38 - Rhythmic

#21 - Country

 

You're Still the One also achieved this.

 

July 4, 1998:

#24 - Rhythmic

#30 - Country

I guess Gary will correct me. Still, MTB is on six very varied BB airplay charts. It's on Country, Top 40, HAC, AC, Rhythmic, and on the Dance Airplay chart. Hunt's Back Road failed to reach Rhythmic, though he performed strongly on Country, HAC, and AC. 

 

The only song I can think of that reached more airplay charts, 7 or 8 is Kid Rock's "All Summer Long." It first charted at Active Rock, Heritage Rock, Alternative, AAA (I think) Country, Top 40, HAC, and AC.

 

Had Rock not taken such a hard stance against ITunes (which he reversed earlier in the 2010s), he probably would've had a #1 song. He peaked at #3 on Radio Songs, but just 23 overall. In fact, two cover versions that were available on ITunes actually peaked in the Top 20 with virtually zero airplay.

[Starkboy]

POP

1. The Middle : 18.177 (+50) | 110.230 (+0.982)

2. Meant To Be : 14.949 (+91) | 74.694 (+0.715)

3. Never Be The Same : 14.555 (+211) | 79.857 (+1.019)

6 (+1) Pray For Me : 11.644 (+108) | 66.440 (+0.628)

8. God's Plan : 11.030 (+171) | 61.987 (+0.584)

9. New Rules : 10.217 (-120) | 75.967 (-1.051)

10. Perfect : 9.993 (-140) | 67.044 (-1.412)

 

11. Whatever It Takes : 8.885 (+68) | 42.487 (+0.445)

12. Wait : 8.631 (+99) | 42.819 (+0.951)

13. FRIENDS : 6.968 (+128) | 33.305 (+0.942)

14. Mine : 6.810 (+165) | 35.918 (+0.323)

15. Say Something : 6.703 (+99) | 32.156 (+0.358)

16. No Excuses : 6.570 (+63) | 27.212 (+0.253)

17. In My Blood : 6.070 (+171) | 35.100 (+0.818)

18 (+1) Tell Me You Love Me : 5.684 (+34) | 27.197 (+0.225)

20. All The Stars : 5.669 (+68) | 29.320 (+0.934)

 

21 (+1) Psycho : 4.621 (+99) | 24.359 (+0.580)

22 (-1) IDGAF : 4.605 (+45 | 19.844 (+0.108)

23. Want You Back : 4.253 (+21) | 17.762 (+0.228)

24. Delicate : 3.857 (+59) | 17.096 (+0.091)

25. On The Loose : 3.139 (+45) | 11.422 (-0.006)

26. Alone : 2.710 (+65) | 13.112 (+0.208)

27. No Roots : 2.649 (+58) | 10.164 (+0.123)

[radioactived]

12 minutes ago, Starkboy said:

10. Perfect : 9.993 (-140) | 67.044 (-1.412)

11. Whatever It Takes : 8.885 (+68) | 42.487 (+0.445)

The way that Whatever It Takes is still stuck at #11 and more than a thousand spins away from top 10 on pop 

Guess it'll take another week or so in order to pass Perfect.

[Genie in a Bottle]

It’s still so weird how slow and out of touch radio is with streaming aka the real-time actual charts

[Starkboy]

URBAN

0    43     DRAKE  Nice For What     691   0    691   7.217

 

RHYTHMIC

0    36     DRAKE   Nice For What    551    0     551    4.514

 

+223 Spins

+223 Bullet

+1.939 Audience

 

making massive jumps on Urban as well.  it had less than 440 spins yesterday  

[Genie in a Bottle]

7 minutes ago, Henstridge said:

We have had this debate way too many times.

 

Pop radio won't and shouldn't play rap music  

Rap music IS pop music. Most of rap music is melodic nowadays. People like Post Malone and Migos are considered “rappers” when they’re essentially just pop singers. Pop = popular. Pop radio used to play multiple genres across the board and now they only play the generic manufactured wonderbread people that nobody even wants or chooses to listen to. Pop music isn’t dictating popular culture, RAP music is. The hip-hop artists are the ones that people actually pay attnetion to, the same way they did for Gaga and Katy Perry 8 years ago. Times have changed. And I say this as a fully popgirl stan. There’s no reason why “Perfect” by Ed Sheeran should still be Top 10 on radio. It needs to move faster overall. I remember a few months ago Strip that Down and Slow Hands being like, 1 & 2 on radio, yet not even Top 10 on streaming or sales. I remember thinking “wtf?” That to me just screams out of touch programmers. 

 

They never shouldve allowed Clear Channel/iHeart Media to happen, this is why it moves so damn slow and biased. One company essentially dictates everything  

Edited April 10, 2018 by Genie in a Bottle

[KeirGrey]

21 minutes ago, Genie in a Bottle said:

Rap music IS pop music. Most of rap music is melodic nowadays. People like Post Malone and Migos are considered “rappers” when they’re essentially just pop singers. Pop = popular. Pop radio used to play multiple genres across the board and now they only play the generic manufactured wonderbread people that nobody even wants or chooses to listen to. Pop music isn’t dictating popular culture, RAP music is. The hip-hop artists are the ones that people actually pay attnetion to, the same way they did for Gaga and Katy Perry 8 years ago. Times have changed. And I say this as a fully popgirl stan. There’s no reason why “Perfect” by Ed Sheeran should still be Top 10 on radio. It needs to move faster overall. I remember a few months ago Strip that Down and Slow Hands being like, 1 & 2 on radio, yet not even Top 10 on streaming or sales. I remember thinking “wtf?” That to me just screams out of touch programmers. 

 

They never shouldve allowed Clear Channel/iHeart Media to happen, this is why it moves so damn slow and biased. One company essentially dictates everything  

The audiences for radio and streaming aren't exactly the same so it's fine that there's discrepancy but yeah some massive discrepancies sometimes

[omrimayo]

51 minutes ago, Starkboy said:

URBAN

0    43     DRAKE  Nice For What     691   0    691   7.217

 

RHYTHMIC

0    36     DRAKE   Nice For What    551    0     551    4.514

 

+223 Spins

+223 Bullet

+1.939 Audience

 

making massive jumps on Urban as well.  it had less than 440 spins yesterday  

From Today at pop?

[levi_valvi]

48 minutes ago, Genie in a Bottle said:

Rap music IS pop music. Most of rap music is melodic nowadays. People like Post Malone and Migos are considered “rappers” when they’re essentially just pop singers. Pop = popular. Pop radio used to play multiple genres across the board and now they only play the generic manufactured wonderbread people that nobody even wants or chooses to listen to. Pop music isn’t dictating popular culture, RAP music is. The hip-hop artists are the ones that people actually pay attnetion to, the same way they did for Gaga and Katy Perry 8 years ago. Times have changed. And I say this as a fully popgirl stan. There’s no reason why “Perfect” by Ed Sheeran should still be Top 10 on radio. It needs to move faster overall. I remember a few months ago Strip that Down and Slow Hands being like, 1 & 2 on radio, yet not even Top 10 on streaming or sales. I remember thinking “wtf?” That to me just screams out of touch programmers. 

 

They never shouldve allowed Clear Channel/iHeart Media to happen, this is why it moves so damn slow and biased. One company essentially dictates everything  

You can't say that radio is out of touch for playing song that don't do well on streaming. radio had a different demographic than streaming so naturally different songs will do well. and it's not like they just play random song that they just feel like, radio is in constant contact with their audience to optimize what they spin. If a radio would actually gain something from just spinning the top 50 spotify chart surely they would just do that, it's a competetive business after all.

 

and pop music does not equal popular music, not anymore. we have small acts making pop music and it'll still be pop even though they aren't popular, like if Kim Petras and Sigrid aren't making pop idk what they are making. and rock songs don't become pop songs just cause they are very popular, like??? 

[Rauliwt]

Overall

 

TOP 20

 

1=BEBE REXHA Meant To Be f/F.G.L. 188.921 (+1.720)

2=BRUNO MARS & CARDI B Finesse 165.803 (-3.254)

3=ZEDD/MAREN MORRIS/GREY The Middle 160.771 (+1.779)

4=DRAKE God's Plan 156.346 (+0.218)

5=ED SHEERAN Perfect 143.155 (-1.566)

6=THE WEEKND & KENDRICK LAMAR Pray For Me 121.064 (+0.499)

7=CAMILA CABELLO Never Be The Same 109.815 (+1.658)

8=MAX Lights Down Low 105.784 (-2.031)

9=DUA LIPA New Rules 103.718 (-1.372)

10=IMAGINE DRAGONS Whatever It Takes 96.475 (+0.872)

 

11=CAMILA CABELLO Havana f/Young Thug 90.493 (-1.041)

12=G-EAZY & HALSEY Him & I 86.800 (-2.083)

13=NF Let You Down 81.808 (-1.235)

14=PORTUGAL. THE MAN Feel It Still 73.063 (-0.079)

15=LUKE BRYAN Most People Are Good 72.457 (-0.365)

16=MAROON 5 Wait 72.341 (+1.182)

17=JORDAN DAVIS Singles You Up 68.611 (+0.261)

18=KENDRICK LAMAR & SZA All The Stars 68.486 (+0.887)

19=POST MALONE Psycho f/Ty Dolla $ign 64.386 (+0.894)

20+2JASON ALDEAN You Make It Easy 62.488 (+1.213)

 

- - - - - -

 

SHAWN MENDES In My Blood 50.302 (+1.565)

BAZZI Mine 56.394 (+0.788)

MEGHAN TRAINOR No Excuses 47.052 (+0.359)

MARSHMELLO & ANNE-MARIE Friends 39.211 (+1.109)

TAYLOR SWIFT Delicate 35.695 (+0.577)

DEMI LOVATO Tell Me You Love Me 29.583 (+0.218)

DRAKE Nice For What 11.933 (+9.353)

CALVIN HARRIS & DUA LIPA One Kiss 19.033 (+1.947)

DUA LIPA IDGAF 22.494 (+0.923)

 

CHARLIE PUTH Done For Me f/Kehlani 4.070 (+0.345)

HALSEY Alone f/Big Sean, Stefflon Don 14.608 (+0.312)

SZA Broken Clocks 18.518 (+0.307)

LOGIC & MARSHMELLO Everyday 17.505 (+0.118)

NICKY JAM & J BALVIN X 14.678 (+0.304)

KHALID X NORMANI Love Lies 8.240 (+0.201)

THE CHAINSMOKERS Everybody Hates Me 7.160 (+0.132)

SAM SMITH Pray 1.381 (+0.082)

[Yog]

20 minutes ago, Rauliwt said:

SAM SMITH Pray 1.381 (+0.082)

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[FAN]

How is Never Be The Same actually headed for Top 10 on Rhythmic  

[Mediabase]

-- 31 CALVIN HARRIS & DUA LIPA One Kiss 1610 0 1610 18.372

+164 Spins
+164 Bullet
+1.877 Audience

[Rauliwt]

39 minutes ago, Yog said:

......

[Yog]

3 minutes ago, Rauliwt said:

That not a good sign.. is it?

[Genie in a Bottle]

3 hours ago, levi_valvi said:

You can't say that radio is out of touch for playing song that don't do well on streaming. radio had a different demographic than streaming so naturally different songs will do well. and it's not like they just play random song that they just feel like, radio is in constant contact with their audience to optimize what they spin. If a radio would actually gain something from just spinning the top 50 spotify chart surely they would just do that, it's a competetive business after all.

 

and pop music does not equal popular music, not anymore. we have small acts making pop music and it'll still be pop even though they aren't popular, like if Kim Petras and Sigrid aren't making pop idk what they are making. and rock songs don't become pop songs just cause they are very popular, like??? 

Pop music will always equate to popular music. That’s literally it’s definition. Urban music was huge in the early 2000’s the same way it is now, but it wasn’t nearly as snubbed on the format.

[Rauliwt]

44 minutes ago, Yog said:

That not a good sign.. is it?

No, seems like Capitol are more interested on Dua, Halsey and Migos... 

[Yog]

Just now, Rauliwt said:

No, seems like Capitol are more interested on Dua, Halsey and Migos... 

Ugh.. well still a solid era, hopefully the MV can give it some life. 

[Mediabase]

2 hours ago, Rauliwt said:

No, seems like Capitol are more interested on Dua, Halsey and Migos... 

Dua is with Warner Bros.

[Cap10Planet]

When was the last time a double digit #1 didn't reach the summit on Radio Songs?

[R!ck]

7 hours ago, Henstridge said:

We have had this debate way too many times.

 

Pop radio won't and shouldn't play rap music  

They play rhythmic/hip-hop/r&b hits that crossover basically, right now we have in top 20: Finesse, God's Plan, Pray For Me, All The Stars, I think Love. and YD&B also reached top 20, Him & I and Let You Down were also big Rhythmic hits.

 

There are rhythmic, alternative, edm, electro-pop, ballads, pure pop, and even a country-pop song so I don't get the complains, top 40 radio has variety right now. 

 

I agree with you, thank GOD they don't dare to play ****ty mumble rap!  

 

Imagine if this: https://www.billboard.com/charts/on-demand-songs was what top 40 were playing right now (I think I would shoot my radio ) and top 40 radio industry would go broke lol  

Edited April 10, 2018 by R!ck

[QueenofCopyPaste]

7 minutes ago, Cap10Planet said:

When was the last time a double digit #1 didn't reach the summit on Radio Songs?

The Boys Mine in 1998 (#2) blocked by Iris