charts discussion US Airplay Discussion

[Into The Void]

2 hours ago, Ger-55 said:

Jeez... those "golden hour" losses are really bad. Can't say it will be missed tho. 

 

"Anti-Hero" stabilizing in the Top 10

 

And "Escapism." better come through!!

 

Imma need "Love Again" to post massive gains asap, best "new" song out right now.

as an independent  artist it is impressive how far that song got and the streams its still doing    doing great with no label push

[brianc33710]

WOW! Linkin Park 115-7 at Alternative & 112-6 on Active Rock in spins! This is great to see! But will HAC &/or T40 give this song a chance? Remember In The End topped both in early 2002 without ever going for adds at either. 

[besaid]

3 hours ago, Ger-55 said:

 

11. golden hour: 7562 (-604) | 19.722 (-1.970) 

 

Holy cow  Is this one of the biggest non-radio deal drops ever? 

[brianc33710]

46 minutes ago, pride4jc1222 said:

As I’ve said, the recurrency rules on Pop and the Hot 100 are very inconsistent and arbitrary. The runs of UIFY and Unstoppable have exposed them. Here’s what I’d do to fix them:

 

On Pop, songs should be protected from recurrency until (1) they have had at least 2 falling weeks AND (2) they have peaked in streaming. In that way, we prevent songs like UIFY from going recurrent on Pop while still rising on streaming/the Hot 100.

 

I’d also create a rule that makes songs recurrent on Pop ineligible from re-entering on the Hot 100. This would prevent songs like Unstoppable from re-entering the Hot 100 (and lingering on the chart for a few months) post-holiday season without a new boost.

I actually agree with a lot of what you are saying. But the Hot 100 can't revolve around 1 format, even if CHR has a plurality-majority of the audience. Country is 2nd biggest & songs from there can now crack the T10 without crossover any airplay now. 

[Ger]

4 minutes ago, brianc33710 said:

WOW! Linkin Park 115-7 at Alternative & 112-6 on Active Rock in spins! This is great to see! But will HAC &/or T40 give this song a chance? Remember In The End topped both in early 2002 without ever going for adds at either. 

Highly doubt it, Alternative and Rock are very loyal to legends like Linkin Park. They depend a lot on recurrent airplay for their current basis and LP are among the most played artists on the format for years, just based on previous stuff. On the other hand, Top 40 is very tricky, they function according to trends and demand, one day you're a hit, the other day you're not missed. 

[pride4jc1222]

4 minutes ago, brianc33710 said:

I actually agree with a lot of what you are saying. But the Hot 100 can't revolve around 1 format, even if CHR has a plurality-majority of the audience. Country is 2nd biggest & songs from there can now crack the T10 without crossover any airplay now. 

Yeah, the same should apply to country (as well as other genres). If a song has gone recurrent on its main genre’s radio with no crossover, it shouldn’t be allowed to return to the Hot 100 without another push. There’s no reason why a song like TKOLWM, which Luke’s team moved on from in October after peaking on country radio and went recurrent on the Hot 100 in early December, should still be on the Hot 100 in late February.

[brianc33710]

1 hour ago, Ger-55 said:

Highly doubt it, Alternative and Rock are very loyal to legends like Linkin Park. They depend a lot on recurrent airplay for their current basis and LP are among the most played artists on the format for years, just based on previous stuff. On the other hand, Top 40 is very tricky, they function according to trends and demand, one day you're a hit, the other day you're not missed. 

Actually having heard the song Lost probably wouldn't be that out of place at HAC &/or Pop. It has a trap-somewhat EDM beat. Of course Lost has some guitar & Chester's voice does get loud at times. The keyboards & Rhythmic beats are why LP still got a little mainstream airplay after all other Rock acts had been rudely shoved out of Pops doors. Burn It Down climbed to #25 at T40 3 years after Second Chance reached #3.

[Ger]

51 minutes ago, brianc33710 said:

Actually having heard the song Lost probably wouldn't be that out of place at HAC &/or Pop. It has a trap-somewhat EDM beat. Of course Lost has some guitar & Chester's voice does get loud at times. The keyboards & Rhythmic beats are why LP still got a little mainstream airplay after all other Rock acts had been rudely shoved out of Pops doors. Burn It Down climbed to #25 at T40 3 years after Second Chance reached #3.

It's a shame I don't see LP listed on your favorite artists, but I'm sure you still appreciate them (as you should). I'd totally be here for it if they could crossover. Not a big fan of the song, seems bland to me, but still rooting for them.

 

Well, last year MGK's "my ex's best friend" climbed to Top 3 on Pop, it's the closest to rock we've had.

 

If it helps..

 

Pop (Incomplete)

Lost: 7 Spins | 0.008 Audience

Edited February 19, 2023 by Ger-55

[Michael196]

hopefully 3-6 somehow collapse below ah&lh so they could get more weeks inside the top 10

[pride4jc1222]

SUNDAY PUBLISHED UPDATE:

3 1 MILEY CYRUS Flowers 17482 15711 177158.903
4 2 METRO BOOMIN Creepin' f/The Weeknd, 21 Sav. 16823 15598 1225 57.981
1 3 THE WEEKND Die For You 16539 17226 -68754.162
2 4 SAM SMITH & KIM PETRAS Unholy 15344 16243 -899 48.177
5 5 DAVID GUETTA & BEBE REXHA I'm Good (Blue) 13610 15175 -1565 45.447
6 6 MEGHAN TRAINOR Made You Look 12233 12685 -452 33.102
7 7 SZA Kill Bill 11836 10792 1044 41.151
9 8 BEYONCE Cuff It 10490 10335 155 33.088
8 9 TAYLOR SWIFT Anti-Hero 9493 10736 -124328.600
11 10 TAYLOR SWIFT Lavender Haze 9423 8712 711 28.626

14 11 RAYE Escapism f/070 Shake 7240 6207 1033 22.368
13 12 REMA & SELENA GOMEZ Calm Down 7189 6585 604 20.537
12 13 CHRIS BROWN Under The Influence 6978 6591 387 18.701
15 14 LADY GAGA Bloody Mary 6542 6126 416 19.358
16 15 SZA Nobody Gets Me 5009 4800 209 12.175
17 16 SABRINA CARPENTER Nonsense 4637 4177 460 13.329
31 17 LIZZO Special f/SZA 4342 1264 307813.235
20 18 COI LERAY Players 4012 2934 107811.358
19 19 TIESTO 10:35 f/Tate McRae 3946 3282 664 8.199
25 20 THE KID LAROI Love Again 3668 2017 1651 8.030

21 21 KANE BROWN & KATELYN BROWN Thank God 3268 2593 675 7.781
22 22 SAM SMITH I'm Not Here To Make Friends 3091 2446 645 7.379
18 23 P!NK Never Gonna Not Dance Again 2905 3947 -1042 5.339
27 24 TYGA Sunshine f/Jhene Aiko/PopSmoke 2024 1828 196 5.682
28 25 LONNIE One Night Stand 1979 1779 200 4.196
24 26 OLIVER TREE & ROBIN SCHULZ Miss You 1900 2072 -172 2.706
23 27 AVRIL LAVIGNE I'm A Mess w/YUNGBLUD 1635 2261 -626 2.422
30 28 MIMI WEBB Red Flags 1543 1267 276 1.924
26 29 BEACH WEATHER Sex, Drugs, Etc. 1491 1860 -369 2.284
32 30 LIL UZI VERT Just Wanna Rock 1416 1162 254 2.474

33 31 RENEE RAPP Too Well 983 702 281 1.421
-- 32 NIALL HORAN Heaven 856 0 856 4.220
35 33 DRAKE & 21 SAVAGE Rich Flex 739 633 106 1.512
37 34 SHAKIRA & BIZARRAP BZRP Music Sessions #53 683 530 153 1.320
42 35 MIGUEL Sure Thing 643 241 402 2.926
29 36 JOJI Die For You 607 1488 -881 0.908
34 37 CHARLIEONNAFRIDAY Enough 529 676 -147 1.158
51 38 PINKPANTHERESS Boy's A Liar 496 116 380 2.022
39 39 JOHNNIE MIKEL Fallen Angel 492 442 50 0.218
40 40 FALL OUT BOY Love From The Other Side 382 306 76 0.896

72 41 MORGAN WALLEN Last Night 363 48 315 0.904
-- 42 LATTO Lottery f/LU KALA 329 0 329 1.603
45 43 ZARA LARSSON Can't Tame Her 316 175 141 0.438
41 44 GHOST Mary On A Cross 290 278 12 0.091
44 45 TYLA Been Thinking 229 201 28 0.309
55 46 XG Left Right 187 99 88 0.132
43 47 POST MALONE Wrapped Around Your Finger 175 208 -33 0.488
49 48 SZA Shirt 142 141 1 0.221
47 49 REGARD X DROP G No Love For You 138 149 -11 0.103
46 50 TYGA & CHRIS BROWN Nasty 136 157 -21 0.195

[brianc33710]

6 hours ago, Ger-55 said:

It's a shame I don't see LP listed on your favorite artists, but I'm sure you still appreciate them (as you should). I'd totally be here for it if they could crossover. Not a big fan of the song, seems bland to me, but still rooting for them.

 

Well, last year MGK's "my ex's best friend" climbed to Top 3 on Pop, it's the closest to rock we've had.

 

If it helps..

 

Pop (Incomplete)

Lost: 7 Spins | 0.008 Audience

Maybe they'll give it a chance. I learned today Lost was supposed to serve as 2003 Meteora's opening song. That instead went to Somewhere I Belong (I remember this well being the 1st Rock song to debut in the H100s Top 50 without crossover airplay). LP added Lost to Meteora's 20th Anny reissue & it's their 1st release since Chester's suicide 6 years ago. So maybe we will see other songs sung by Chester later this year. 

 

I had Linkin Park listed among my favorite acts when I limited my signature to only Rock artists. When I decided I should also list my Country acts I had to remove some Rock to make room. I think LP is still listed as a favorite act in my ATRL profile though. 

 

[pride4jc1222]

6 hours ago, Ger-55 said:

 

 

Well, last year MGK's "my ex's best friend" climbed to Top 3 on Pop, it's the closest to rock we've had.

 

Wait, wasn't mebf's run from about late 2020 to mid 2021, with the song peaking in March/April 2021?

[Ger]

1 hour ago, brianc33710 said:

Maybe they'll give it a chance. I learned today Lost was supposed to serve as 2003 Meteora's opening song. That instead went to Somewhere I Belong (I remember this well being the 1st Rock song to debut in the H100s Top 50 without crossover airplay). LP added Lost to Meteora's 20th Anny reissue & it's their 1st release since Chester's suicide 6 years ago. So maybe we will see other songs sung by Chester later this year. 

 

I had Linkin Park listed among my favorite acts when I limited my signature to only Rock artists. When I decided I should also list my Country acts I had to remove some Rock to make room. I think LP is still listed as a favorite act in my ATRL profile though. 

 

I read that there going to be included 6 unreleased songs due to Meteora 20th anniversary. How time flies...

 

37 minutes ago, pride4jc1222 said:

Wait, wasn't mebf's run from about late 2020 to mid 2021, with the song peaking in March/April 2021?

You're right, I tend to confuse the years after the pandemic started.

[nick4bty]

14 hours ago, jdanton2 said:

golden hour getting the Glimpse of Us and Until I Found You drops unfortunately. all among the best male songs released last year with similar peaks.

Seems to be the trend with male TikTok songs for some reason

[nick4bty]

I'm really surprised Escapism is doing so well tbh. It's a fine song, love the sound, but it doesn't have much of a hook or anything memorable tbh. Is there a label push here? Also surprised to see Calm Down getting a second wind. Just doesn't seem like the song radio would've supported as much as they have. 

 

Also didn't realize Wrapped Around Your Finger was already done Damn radio seems done with Posty

[Headlock]

6 hours ago, nick4bty said:

I'm really surprised Escapism is doing so well tbh. It's a fine song, love the sound, but it doesn't have much of a hook or anything memorable tbh.

What? The song is full of hooks 

The prechorus line melodies rising in "sipping chamPAGNE", "sniffing cocAINE"

"I don't wanna fell how I did last night" melody

"Doctor-doctor, anything please?" syncopated hook

[pride4jc1222]

18 hours ago, besaid said:

Holy cow  Is this one of the biggest non-radio deal drops ever? 

No, Glimpse of Us (with a -932 update on 10/23/2022) was the biggest drop ever. I blame Joji for waiting way too long to release the album.

Edited February 20, 2023 by pride4jc1222

[Ger]

POP

1. Flowers: 17717 (+236) | 59.809 (+0.902) 

2. Creepin': 16879 (+56) | 58.350 (+0.363) 

3. Die for You: 16418 (-123) | 53.738 (-0.432) 

4. Unholy: 15231 (-112) | 48.017 (-0.151) 

5. I'm Good (Blue): 13445 (-164) | 45.060 (-0.384) 

6. Made You Look: 12131 (-102) | 32.833 (-0.268) 

7. Kill Bill: 12023 (+187) | 41.670 (+0.513) 

8. CUFF IT: 10446 (-46) | 32.914 (-0.195) 

9 (+1) Lavender Haze: 9491 (+69) | 28.735 (+0.105) 

10 (-1) Anti-Hero 9413 (-83) | 28.273 (-0.327) 

 

11 (+1) Escapism.: 7399 (+161) | 22.728 (+0.357) 

12 (+1) Calm Down: 7364 (+180) | 21.148 (+0.638) 

13 (+1) Under the Influence: 7045 (+67) | 18.825 (+0.131) 

14 (+1) Bloody Mary: 6617 (+73) | 19.665 (+0.295) 

15 (+1) Nobody Gets Me: 5042 (+33) | 12.267 (+0.092) 

16 (+2) Special: 4696 (+355) | 13.968 (+0.744) 

17. Nonsense: 4659 (+22) | 13.340 (+0.011) 

18 (+1) Players: 4189 (+180) | 11.983 (+0.628) 

19 (+1) 10:35: 3981 (+35) | 8.156 (-0.043) 

20 (+1) Love Again: 3878 (+210) | 8.733 (+0.703) 

 

21 (+1) Thank God: 3363 (+95) | 8.152 (+0.371) 

22 (+1) I'm Not Here to Make Friends: 3157 (+67) | 7.848 (+0.472) 

23 (+1) Never Gonna Not Dance Again: 2663 (-244) | 4.789 (-0.555)  

24 (+1) Sunshine: 2057 (+34) | 5.712 (+0.031) 

25 (+1) One Night Stand: 1985 (+7) | 3.948 (-0.247) 

26 (+1) Miss You: 1809 (-89) | 2.479 (-0.223) 

27 (+2) Red Flags: 1666 (+123) | 2.392 (+0.468) 

28. I'm a Mess: 1526 (-110) | 2.300 (-0.124) 

29 (+2) Just Wanna Rock: 1523 (+107) | 2.974 (+0.500) 

30. Sex, Drugs, Etc.: 1365 (-125) | 1911 (-0.370) 

 

32 (+1) Heaven: 1032 (+177) | 4.825 (+0.608) 

33 (+3) Sure Thing: 750 (+107) | 3.312 (+0.386) 

34. Rich Flex: 727 (-12) | 1.472 (-0.040) 

35. Shakira: Bzrp Music Sessions, Vol. 53: 694 (+11) | 1.295 (-0.025) 

36 (+3) Boy's a liar: 581 (+85) | 2.373 (+0.351) 

37 (+7) Lottery: 538 (+210) | 2.432 (+0.831) 

41 (+1) Last Night: 418 (+55) | 1.057 (+0.153) 

42 (-1) Love From the Other Side: 395 (+13) | 0.913 (+0.017) 

 

0    46    BEBE REXHA    Heart Wants What It Wants    228    0    228    0.878

[Ger]

R. golden hour: 7110 (-452) | 18.272 (-1.450) 

 

Well, looks like this one is going to be safe from joining the list.

[Ger]

OVERALL

 

** = Incorrect update (song was dropped from or added to a format)

 

1. Miley Cyrus - "Flowers" 98.33 (+1.60) 

2. Metro Boomin, The Weeknd & 21 Savage - "Creepin'" 95.64 (+1.08) 

3. The Weeknd - "Die for You" 85.68 (-0.47) 

4. David Guetta & Bebe Rexha - "I'm Good (Blue)" 78.39 (-0.57) 

5. Sam Smith & Kim Petras - "Unholy" 74.87 (-0.27) 

6. SZA - "Kill Bill" 73.50 (+1.16) 

7. Taylor Swift - "Anti-Hero" 68.32 (-0.29) 

8. Meghan Trainor - "Made You Look" 61.99 (-0.15) 

9. Beyoncé - "CUFF IT" 60.78 (-0.22) 

10. Kane Brown & Katelyn Brown - "Thank God" 56.20 (-0.19) **

 

11. Harry Styles - "As It Was" 55.68 (+0.44) 

12. Chris Brown - "Under the Influence" 54.63 (-0.09) 

13. Morgan Wallen - "Thought You Should Know" 47.41 (+0.10) 

14. Luke Combs - "Going, Going, Gone" 43.32 (+0.31) 

15 (+1) Lil Uzi Vert - "Just Wanna Rock" 42.95 (+0.87) 

16 (-1) Taylor Swift - "Lavender Haze" 42.40 (+0.12) 

17. Coi Leray - "Players" 41.13 (+0.77) 

18 (+1) Sia - "Unstoppable" 39.18 (-0.43) 

18 (-1) SZA - "Shirt" 39.00 (-0.91) 

20. Post Malone - "I Like You (A Happier Song) [feat. Doja Cat]" 38.33 (-0.12) 

 

Drake & 21 Savage - "Rich Flex" 37.44 (-0.31) 

Glass Animals - "Heat Waves" 36.51 (-0.30) 

Lainey Wilson - "Heart Like a Truck" 36.25 (+0.21) 

Nicky Youre & dazy - "Sunroof" 35.71 (-0.55) 

Bailey Zimmerman - "Rock and a Hard Place" 32.77 (+0.44) 

RAYE - "Escapism. (feat. 070 Shake)" 31.88 (+0.64) 

Rema & Selena Gomez - "Calm Down" 30.61 (+0.83) 

Lady Gaga - "Bloody Mary" 30.20 (+0.60) 

Morgan Wallen - "You Proof" 29.55 (+0.19) 

JVKE - "golden hour" 26.67 (-1.45) 

Lizzo - "Special (feat. SZA)" 20.91 (+1.51) 

SZA - "Nobody Gets Me" 18.17 (+0.08) 

Bizarrap & Shakira - "Shakira: Bzrp Music Sessions, Vol. 53" 15.51 (-0.11) 

Sabrina Carpenter - "Nonsense" 14.58 (+0.11) 

The Kid LAROI - "Love Again" 11.05 (+0.96) 

Zach Bryan - "Something in the Orange" 6.21 (+0.02) 

Latto - "Lottery (feat. LU KALA)" 3.52 (+1.90) **

[industry baby]

43 minutes ago, Ger-55 said:

14 (+1) Bloody Mary: 6617 (+73) | 19.665 (+0.295)

 

17 minutes ago, Ger-55 said:

Lady Gaga - "Bloody Mary" 30.20 (+0.60) 

on a mission for Top40 peak on Hot100 

 

+ up to #12 on HAC 

[industry baby]

Bloody Mary rising on callouts 

She aint leaving 

[nick4bty]

5 hours ago, Headlock said:

What? The song is full of hooks 

The prechorus line melodies rising in "sipping chamPAGNE", "sniffing cocAINE"

"I don't wanna fell how I did last night" melody

"Doctor-doctor, anything please?" syncopated hook

Sorry, I've listened to this song 10+ times and nothing stands out, couldn't sing or hum a single line or even tell you how the song goes

[DonnieDarko]

@Ger-55 where do you think BM will peak now that call outs went from #37 to #28?

 

[biomind101]

4 hours ago, Ger-55 said:

OVERALL

 

** = Incorrect update (song was dropped from or added to a format)

 

1. Miley Cyrus - "Flowers" 98.33 (+1.60) 

2. Metro Boomin, The Weeknd & 21 Savage - "Creepin'" 95.64 (+1.08) 

3. The Weeknd - "Die for You" 85.68 (-0.47) 

4. David Guetta & Bebe Rexha - "I'm Good (Blue)" 78.39 (-0.57) 

5. Sam Smith & Kim Petras - "Unholy" 74.87 (-0.27) 

6. SZA - "Kill Bill" 73.50 (+1.16) 

7. Taylor Swift - "Anti-Hero" 68.32 (-0.29) 

8. Meghan Trainor - "Made You Look" 61.99 (-0.15) 

9. Beyoncé - "CUFF IT" 60.78 (-0.22) 

10. Kane Brown & Katelyn Brown - "Thank God" 56.20 (-0.19) **

 

11. Harry Styles - "As It Was" 55.68 (+0.44) 

12. Chris Brown - "Under the Influence" 54.63 (-0.09) 

13. Morgan Wallen - "Thought You Should Know" 47.41 (+0.10) 

14. Luke Combs - "Going, Going, Gone" 43.32 (+0.31) 

15 (+1) Lil Uzi Vert - "Just Wanna Rock" 42.95 (+0.87) 

16 (-1) Taylor Swift - "Lavender Haze" 42.40 (+0.12) 

17. Coi Leray - "Players" 41.13 (+0.77) 

18 (+1) Sia - "Unstoppable" 39.18 (-0.43) 

18 (-1) SZA - "Shirt" 39.00 (-0.91) 

20. Post Malone - "I Like You (A Happier Song) [feat. Doja Cat]" 38.33 (-0.12) 

 

Drake & 21 Savage - "Rich Flex" 37.44 (-0.31) 

Glass Animals - "Heat Waves" 36.51 (-0.30) 

Lainey Wilson - "Heart Like a Truck" 36.25 (+0.21) 

Nicky Youre & dazy - "Sunroof" 35.71 (-0.55) 

Bailey Zimmerman - "Rock and a Hard Place" 32.77 (+0.44) 

RAYE - "Escapism. (feat. 070 Shake)" 31.88 (+0.64) 

Rema & Selena Gomez - "Calm Down" 30.61 (+0.83) 

Lady Gaga - "Bloody Mary" 30.20 (+0.60) 

Morgan Wallen - "You Proof" 29.55 (+0.19) 

JVKE - "golden hour" 26.67 (-1.45) 

Lizzo - "Special (feat. SZA)" 20.91 (+1.51) 

SZA - "Nobody Gets Me" 18.17 (+0.08) 

Bizarrap & Shakira - "Shakira: Bzrp Music Sessions, Vol. 53" 15.51 (-0.11) 

Sabrina Carpenter - "Nonsense" 14.58 (+0.11) 

The Kid LAROI - "Love Again" 11.05 (+0.96) 

Zach Bryan - "Something in the Orange" 6.21 (+0.02) 

Latto - "Lottery (feat. LU KALA)" 3.52 (+1.90) **

Will Flowers make it to 100 million audience??