In recent events with Frank Ocean coming out as Bisexual I can't help but look at some of the comments made, particularly by the black community...
Some praising him....
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I have mad respect 4 @frank_ocean comin out most dudes in the music industry would NEVER!!! Especially in black community... #RESPECT
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I'm glad Frank Ocean can actually come out & admit his sexuality cause we know all these other black rappers would NEVER
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Delighted about Frank Ocean's brave stance. He is what the Black industry needs.
Others not so welcoming...
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It will be interesting to see how Frank Ocean coming out plays socially in Black America. Which is known to be highly homophobic
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Never been a fan of Frank Ocean so him coming out of the closet doesn't bother me much. But it breaks my heart tho knowing he black lol.
We all know the Black Community itself is highly homophobic , with terms like "Battyboi fi dead" in Jamaica and many dancehall/ reggae/ rap songs glorifying homophobia. This leads me to this question....
With Frank Ocean now coming out is this a glimmer of hope for the Black LGBT community or will urban music audiences and the Black community push him away like other gay black celebrities before him?
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Originally posted by shenzi
I know that fatass, self-loathing pervert nezLaos and the boy who stans for the Face of meth and Valium aren't trying it with GOD. Not today, not ever.
It pisses me off that the Black community are painted as the biggest homophobics. I read a poll recently that showed that the black community had slightly higher support for gay marriage than the national average (I think the American average was 54% and African Americans supported it at 56% or something like that). Homophobia is a problem in our society PERIOD!!
Frank Ocean doesn't warrant a discussion about the black community and homosexuality. The dude came out and some people (some who will be black) will support him, and some (some who will also be black) won't. The reception regarding his homosexuality is not dissimilar to the universal reception of homosexuality. This farce of painting the black community specifically to be so much more (or ANY more, really) in disagreement with homosexuality is old and needs to be buried already.
Honestly, they talk **** on the internet and to their followers because they think its cute. Most of them are not like that in person.
I played football at predominately black High school and I came out when I was in the 9th grade. I had a journal that I used to draw my thoughts on guys, and everything. One of my best friends found it. He was so kind and welcoming when he found out I liked guys. He was like "It's okay Mike. I understand". *getting teary eyed*
Then my other friend who was also on the football team was pretty much the same way because I told him there was something that I wanted to tell him, and he kept asking what it was for days. So I told him that I was gay, and he was like "That's all?". It was really the best coming out experience with the guys. When I came out to girls, it was bad, a lot of them looked at me like I was disgusting and they couldn't believe it.
Everything will roll over, and the backlash was actually very minimal for him, he will be fine.
Frank Ocean doesn't warrant a discussion about the black community and homosexuality. The dude came out and some people (who are black) support him, and some (who are black) don't. The reception regarding his homosexuality is not dissimilar to the universal reception of homosexuality. This farce of painting the black community specifically to be so much more (or ANY more, really) in disagreement with homosexuality is old and needs to be buried already.
Im sorry but I think it does, If u look at the reaction the black community is having regarding him coming out I think it should be discussed and lets face it with songs like this...
Still being used in black clubs and parties regularly today it shows that the black community is still more homophobic than others. Im not saying this represents the whole community , that would be stupid but we can't deny this...
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Originally posted by shenzi
I know that fatass, self-loathing pervert nezLaos and the boy who stans for the Face of meth and Valium aren't trying it with GOD. Not today, not ever.
.... I don't think he'll have any issues tbh, especially since he's pretty much already established himself and people already love him. If this was the 80's or 90's then yeah I'd be concerned for his career but as far as homophobia in the black community... it's nowhere near as bad as it used to be. Like someone else said, people just talk **** on Twitter. I don't think most people will care and I don't think it'll hurt him.
I don't think the black community are really as homophobic as it seems sometimes.
Also, especially recently, with a lot of rappers saying pro-gay things in interviews, etc, I think it'll help. The truth is, a lot of people (especially young straight males) out there idolize people like Tyler the Creator, 50 Cent, etc. So now that they've said nice things about gay people recently, hopefully those people will follow their example. After all, since Tyler the Creator congratulated Frank Ocean today, then it surely must be "cool" to do now.
It pisses me off that the Black community are painted as the biggest homophobics. I read a poll recently that showed that the black community had slightly higher support for gay marriage than the national average (I think the American average was 54% and African Americans supported it at 56% or something like that). Homophobia is a problem in our society PERIOD!!
I completely agree. I had the most amazing coming out experience as a black male and I was so embraced by my brothers, and I went to a very black school.
I refuse to believe that blacks are less tolerant of gays. I don't think that is true because I have found that blacks are more tolerant of things they don't understand because they either do it or they don't. If it doesn't concern them, it doesn't concern them.
I've been pleasantly surprised by the backlash he's experienced so far. Just from what I've seen, people have been generally accepting of him, minus the idiots of course.
I don't think it will hurt his career, and I agree that it could be an important milestone in the genre.
[QUOTE=IWasHere;10518231]It's kinda annoying how ppl always and only focus on the black community but the black community isn't the only community that displays homophobia.
I don't think the black community are really as homophobic as it seems sometimes.
Also, especially recently, with a lot of rappers saying pro-gay things in interviews, etc, I think it'll help. The truth is, a lot of people (especially young straight males) out there idolize people like Tyler the Creator, 50 Cent, etc. So now that they've said nice things about gay people recently, hopefully those people will follow their example. After all, since Tyler the Creator congratulated Frank Ocean today, then it surely must be "cool" to do now.
It may seem like that on paper, but reality's very different when it comes to sexuality.
People's minds can't be changed overnight when it comes to stuff like this,
but Frank's situation is def a step in the right direction.
Im sorry but I think it does, If u look at the reaction the black community is having regarding him coming out I think it should be discussed and lets face it with songs like this...
Still being used in black clubs and parties regularly today it shows that the black community is still more homophobic than others. Im not saying this represents the whole community , that would be stupid but we can't deny this...
You're wrong, and it's not debatable. You haven't presented anything suggesting that the black community is more homophobic, and you won't be able to. A few black people on twitter are not representative of the black community. A hundred black people on twitter are not representative of the black community. The prevalence of the song is irrelevant because it also does not represent the way the black community feels about anything. You have nothing.
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Im not saying this represents the whole community , that would be stupid
That is exactly what you are doing.
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look at the reaction the black community is having regarding him coming out
Still being used in black clubs and parties regularly today it shows that the black community is still more homophobic than others
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The dude came out and some people (some who will be black) will support him, and some (some who will also be black) won't. The reception regarding his homosexuality is not dissimilar to the universal reception of homosexuality. This farce of painting the black community specifically to be so much more (or ANY more, really) in disagreement with homosexuality is old and needs to be buried already.
