[jomarr]

Originally posted by Great Username

This is all lovely in theory, but, like, where is this on the album? Where are these new sounds and structures? Where does he explore the depths of his soul? And having to bring up the fact that critics liked it in order to justify your argument = lol.

Just. Leave. Please.

You clearly haven't listened to the album. We do not bring up the critics in order to justify our arguments.. We use our ears and you should too. Stop hating. You clearly hate Kanye bye.

[The Best One Yet]

Originally posted by supaspaz

The final nominees for the big awards are decided by a blue ribbon panel. There was no vote-splitting; it was definitely a conscious decision—probably to clear the way for a 21 win. Because there can't honestly be that many people who think Loud is better than My Beautiful Dark Twisted Fatnasy.

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[Lyzz the Monster]

Originally posted by supaspaz

The final nominees for the big awards are decided by a blue ribbon panel. There was no vote-splitting; it was definitely a conscious decision—probably to clear the way for a 21 win. Because there can't honestly be that many people who think Loud is better than My Beautiful Dark Twisted Fatnasy.

Truth.

[humbz]

Originally posted by jomarr

Last Train was great I agree but Kanye's My Beautiful Dark Twisted Fantasy was very personal and political. And his album was much more cohesive than Last Train to Paris, what are you talking about? Listening to the whole album is like listening to one big poetry about the world.

[Cap10Planet]

Originally posted by supaspaz

The final nominees for the big awards are decided by a blue ribbon panel. There was no vote-splitting.

The NARAS votes for the top twenty, so vote-splitting is possible, and the Blue Ribbon Panel picks the top five of out that list.

[Great Username]

Originally posted by jomarr

We do not bring up the critics in order to justify our arguments.. .

These are not simply my personal kudos; MBDTF is by far the best reviewed album in many years: the critical community flipped out over it like nothing since Radiohead’s zenith.

Originally posted by Willy.

A 94 on Metacritic doesn't lie.

Sorry, my mistake.

[Great Username]

Originally posted by RobynYoBank

I mean, have you listened to the album?

Many times. I'm interested in specific examples of its innovation and new sounds, because I can't hear them. You're all obsessed with it so it shouldn't be too hard to answer without being attacked for not having ears or whatever.

[RobynYoBank]

Originally posted by Great Username

Kanye = the world desperately looking for a musical genius figure to glorify, and lowering their standards and projecting utter ******** onto the album that isn't actually there in order to do so.

He was better when he didn't buy into the idea of himself being some sort of tortured genius. The College Dropout is so joyful compared to the laboured, bloated MBDTF.

This almost seems like a case of Lady Gaga to me. People believe her early material was free of the pretension that people now see in all of her work, but to me, it feels like it was always present. It's the same for Kanye. He knew what he had an opportunity to do after The Blueprint, and I feel every bit of that budding self-glorification in The College Dropout where he casts himself as some weird mix between a repressed high school kid and full-on hip-hop playboy. I mean, here's an album where he sort of pretends he's fooling around and being immature, but he's injecting gospel and deep-religious introspection, touching on work ranging from 50 Cent to Tupac to Aretha Franklin, and packaging it all in a huge pop wrapper, complete with all manner of random pop culture references.

There's no doubt his music has become more dense or challenging, but that's because he's continuously opened up new sonic tools for himself over the years and integrated them into his music.

[jomarr]

Originally posted by Great Username

Sorry, my mistake.

Yes because HE is the whole fan base right? You are clearly pressed.

[Tysen]

MBDTF is AMAZING but is overrated as ****. However, it deserved at least an AOTY nomination.

[Great Username]

Originally posted by RobynYoBank

I mean, here's an album where he sort of pretends he's fooling around and being immature, but he's injecting gospel and deep-religious introspection, touching on work ranging from 50 Cent to Tupac to Aretha Franklin, and packaging it all in a pop wrapper.

He did all of this in The College Dropout and in a far less annoying manner.

[Great Username]

Originally posted by jomarr

Yes because HE is the whole fan base right? You are clearly pressed.

I responded to a specific quote, not 'the whole fan base'. Try and keep the lame immature personal insults to a minimum.

[RobynYoBank]

Originally posted by Great Username

He did all of this in The College Dropout and in a far less annoying manner.

I was talking about The College Dropout.

[UnusualBoy]

For the same reason that Rihanna, Gaga & Bruno got nominated.

Besides this has been explained 9835564587453i times, the votes were split because he had 2 albums so it means his chances to get the nom were bad.

[Great Username]

Originally posted by RobynYoBank

I was talking about The College Dropout.

Oh. Well that doesn't help me with this album, but yeah I agree with that. Great album. And also it was less introspective, and focused more on his talent than his personality. TALK ABOUT SOMETHING ELSE FOR A MINUTE, KANYE. YOU'RE NOT THAT INTERESTING.

Good article: http://www.guardian.co.uk/music/musi...y-critics-hype

[Willy.]

Sis you really don't want me to start with you now do you?

Sampling doesn't make an album any more or less innovative, but the EMOTION is DRIPPING from MBDTF.

Sorry Kanye wanted to create an album full of his personal feelings post-808s.

[Beautiful Sinner]

It deserved AOTY.

[Cap10Planet]

Does anyone know the # in which MBDTF landed on the new Rolling Stone's Greatest Albums of All Time?

[Willy.]

I mean how can you say The College Dropout is better than MBDTF though?

Late Registration and MBDTF share similar elements, and those two albums as well as Graduation are Kanye's masterpieces.

[supaspaz]

Originally posted by Cap10Planet

The NARAS votes for the top twenty, so vote-splitting is possible, and the Blue Ribbon Panel picks the top five of out that list.

Yes, but MBDTF and Watch the Throne definitely both made the top twenty. I'm sure pretty much everyone in the hip-hop community had both of those albums on their ballot.