[SevenFootSounds]

If you wanna play it that way, than this is the REAL Euro-Dance

[NE.]

Originally posted by GaGaFan

IT was DEFO Usher who started this trend.

I think it was Lady Gaga and the Black Eyed Peas.

[Love]

I think it was Rihanna with "Don't Stop the Music" and Chris Brown's "Forever".

[nicsala]

Originally posted by Love is Love

I think it was Rihanna with "Don't Stop the Music" and Chris Brown's "Forever".

THIS. Why do people always forget/conveniently overlook this?

[Drais.]

Originally posted by Captain Planet

Ne-Yo and Chris Brown for example.

What Euro inspired record has Chris released this year? All I've been hearing is urban from him.

Also, he released Forever years ago.

[aRog]

Music changes.

But that was a bad article.

[nicsala]

There seems to be 2 questions/points. When did the genre take over? When did R/B artists first start to dabble in this genre. For the first question, Gaga and BEP are probably the forerunners among others. As far as R/B I'm sure there are better and more significant examples of R/B artists dabbling in "poppish" sounding records. But in 2008 both Neyo and CB had success with R/B-pop. In late 2009, while Usher was still on Papers and Hey Daddy Neyo had a flopped (in U.S. anyway) Beautiful Monster and CB had pop/house album cuts. Beyonce had Sweet Dreams around the same time. Usher came out at the right time and ran with it. CB and others followed up.

Honestly, I think it's just a cultural shift too. Kids who may have traditionally listened to R/B and rap know Gaga and Katy Perry and Coldplay. My local pop station played a version of "No Hands" yesterday with a sped up house/pop/techno beat. Attempting to define genres is getting stickier and it seems ridiculous to me to expect artists not to experiment and try new things.

[Ammer]

Originally posted by GaGaFan

IT was DEFO Usher who started this trend.

LOL

Please. Usher jumped on the bandwagon because his album wasn't doing well.

I would definitely point out Rihanna's "Don't Stop The Music", but I honestly believe everyone jumped on the pop/dance route after Lady GaGa emerged on the scene. She is definitely not the first artist to perform a pop/dance song, but a lot of them seemed to pop up after she debuted.

I mean, just think about how many artist's (including Usher) who suddenly began working with RedOne after GaGa debuted?

(Just an FYI, I'm not a GaGa stan. I like her music, but yeah, don't really care that much about her)

[Cap10Planet]

Originally posted by Hi.Ðefinitiøn

What Euro inspired record has Chris released this year? All I've been hearing is urban from him.

Also, he released Forever years ago.

That's what I mean, crazy. R&B artists have been doing it for the past few years.

But what is "Yeah x 3?"

[J.J]

Akon is the one who started this trend in 2008. His freedom album was full of euro-dance:-
Troublemaker
Beautiful
Keep you much longer
Right now(na na na)

[ILoveUsher]

Originally posted by Ammer

LOL

Please. Usher jumped on the bandwagon because his album wasn't doing well.

I would definitely point out Rihanna's "Don't Stop The Music", but I honestly believe everyone jumped on the pop/dance route after Lady GaGa emerged on the scene. She is definitely not the first artist to perform a pop/dance song, but a lot of them seemed to pop up after she debuted.

I mean, just think about how many artist's (including Usher) who suddenly began working with RedOne after GaGa debuted?

(Just an FYI, I'm not a GaGa stan. I like her music, but yeah, don't really care that much about her)

Let me tell you something about Usher & RvR that a lot of people dont know:

-Usher litterally FOUGHT with his label in order TO PUT OMG ON HIS ALBUM.And the song was actually RECORDED IN 2009...and his album wasnt even released so the "Usher jumped on the bandwagon because his album wasn't doing well." dont work honey
-And FYI you cant imagine how much songs Usher recorded with RedOne. They are not on the album because the label was scared of narrow minded people.And they were wrong since Usher is the Billboard Hot 100 male artist of the year.

[Ammer]

Originally posted by ILoveUsher

-Usher litterally FOUGHT with his label in order TO PUT OMG ON HIS ALBUM.And the song was actually RECORDED IN 2009...and his album wasnt even released so the "Usher jumped on the bandwagon because his album wasn't doing well." dont work honey

Your argument doesn't disprove what I said.

The label may not have forced him to place "OMG" in order to boost sales, but Usher as a commercial artist may have wanted to in order to have his album sell (which was a good decision as no one remembers anything from his album aside from "OMG"). The label may not have forced him, but Usher being a business man probably knew his album didn't have any major hits.

So again, your point doesn't disprove what I said, which was Usher did NOT start the dance trend.

-And FYI you cant imagine how much songs Usher recorded with RedOne. They are not on the album because the label was scared of narrow minded people.And they were wrong since Usher is the Billboard Hot 100 male artist of the year.

OK...but again, would he have worked with RedOne if GaGa had not come onto the scene with him as her producer? That's what we're disputing here.

[ILoveUsher]

Originally posted by Ammer

Your argument doesn't disprove what I said.

The label may not have forced him to place "OMG" in order to boost sales, but Usher as a commercial artist may have wanted to in order to have his album sell (which was a good decision as no one remembers anything from his album aside from "OMG"). The label may not have forced him, but Usher being a business man probably knew his album didn't have any major hits.

So again, your point doesn't disprove what I said, which was Usher did NOT start the dance trend.




OK...but again, would he have worked with RedOne if GaGa had not come onto the scene with him as her producer? That's what we're disputing here.

-Where did I said that Ush started the dance trend?
-Again honey just a reminder you said that Usher released OMG cause his album wasnt doing well which is totally false. This are the actual facts : Usher admires will i am as a producer and even worked with him on HIS and ask him in 2009 to make a "crossover" song and they recorded OMG.Usher was really proud of this song and FORCED his label to put it on the album.And BTW OMG wasnt available until the release of the album.
-And for RedOne I think that everyone is free to work with him....I dont get where is the problem
-You said that Usher didnt have major hits in this album ...but he is this year hot 100 male artist...Weird for someone who didnt have major hits except OMG isnt it?I mean after being named hot 100 artist of the last decade he is now named hot 100 male artsit of the year without having mahjor hits...not bad at all

[Ammer]

Originally posted by ILoveUsher

-Where did I said that Ush started the dance trend?

Yeah, you didn't. Let's just breeze past that!

-Again honey just a reminder you said that Usher released OMG cause his album wasnt doing well which is totally false. This are the actual facts : Usher admires will i am as a producer and even worked with him on HIS and ask him in 2009 to make a "crossover" song and they recorded OMG.Usher was really proud of this song and FORCED his label to put it on the album.And BTW OMG wasnt available until the release of the album.

OK, but your explanation doesn't support your point. Yes, "OMG" was on the album and wasn't released until after the album came out but Usher could have fought his label to place it on the album because he may have realized it lacked any substantial hits (which it did). Look at his album, which single has done well with the exception of "OMG" in the Top 40 charts? Re-release doesn't count.

-You said that Usher didnt have major hits in this album ...but he is this year hot 100 male artist...Weird for someone who didnt have major hits except OMG isnt it?I mean after being named hot 100 artist of the last decade he is now named hot 100 male artsit of the year without having mahjor hits...not bad at all

That's completely accurate. Congrats to him for pulling that off, but he didn't have any hits on the album with the exception of "OMG". But I believe "DJ Got Us Fallin' In Love", "Hot Toddie" and now "More" are probably a good chunk as to why he's named the artist of the year. All of them are great songs, but not on the original version of the album (with the exception of "More", but the version being serviced to radio isn't on either of his albums). His re-release had hits, not the original album.

[StarryEyed]

When did anyone say these songs were R n B songs?

[csybeyking]

Essence is stupid...they'd rather tear down artists who are black(cause they arent R&B), who drift off into dance music because black people are too cheap to buy the music they love to listen to THAN compliment these artists on changing up their style and being to adapt to the musical climate OR compliment the MANY artists like Jazmine Sullivan, Chrisette Michelle, Monica, Trey Songz and Tank who are making Traditional and Contemporary R&B...

Kelly Rowland, Rihanna & Kelis have never been truly embraced by the black community, Rihanna was only embraced after Rated R and Kelly and Kelis are much more embraced in the UK where dance is huge...

Essence did that **** for reads, and for that they have lost credibility

[eli's_rhythm]

I think When Love Takes Over and Sweet Dreams spurred this trend.

[nicsala]

Originally posted by csybeyking

because black people are too cheap to buy the music they love to listen to

Kelly Rowland, Rihanna & Kelis have never been truly embraced by the black community

Um, WHAT??

The article is ****, but who are all these white people buying Trey, Monica, Keyshia????

Kelly hasn't been embraced by ANYONE in the US as a solo artist, has nothing to do w/ the "black community".

[J-cLOUD]

Originally posted by eli's_rhythm

I think When Love Takes Over and Sweet Dreams spurred this trend.

not this...i'd rather say it was BEP's The E.N.D. + David Guetta + Gaga hype