[LadyGagaStan93]

Originally posted by NE.

For those of you associating Dance and Pop with Whites, I hope you DO understand that modern Pop music is a derivative of R&B and Rock which were created by BLACK people. Black culture has been the pinnacle of modern popular music since the 20th century. Yes, artists like Britney Spears and especially Justin Timberlake are products of Black music styles commercialized to appeal across the masses. Some of you need a reality check.

A lot of Genre's are truly just mixed genre's. I don't really think that matters I also think it's a bit of over generalization to say that blacks created or whites created this and that. There were a lot of people doing that kind of music as well, and I sort of don't believe that it has much to do with race. That's just me though.

[Sláy]

Originally posted by Cap10Planet

Alexandra Burke is a basic talent show girl like Leona Lewis. She won't make it far simply because she relies on nothing but talent show hype and her voice. It won't have anything to do with her race, and she is not soul. Trust that.

Really? I would disagree. She hasn't used the show since her debut (when she had to). She certainly is a soul singer. Comparing vocally to Adele. She is. Call her basic, but they take Adele to school on vocals. She hasn't relied on the show (Leona kinda gets forced to). The show isn't the point, it was cowell's label that was the issue. Also, Rebecca Ferguson, Cher and 1Direction have and are making waves in the USA. The show is irrelevant. You must operate outside it. And she has, successfully. Compared to the other acts (bar Leona) from the show.

[Sláy]

Originally posted by LadyGagaStan93

A lot of Genre's are truly just mixed genre's. I don't really think that matters I also think it's a bit of over generalization to say that blacks created or whites created this and that. There were a lot of people doing that kind of music as well, and I sort of don't believe that it has much to do with race. That's just me though.

That's true to an extent, but everyone influences everyone. It's not an over generalisation, but the truth. There were some doing X and some doing Y, but they never got mainstream attention.

[Cap10Planet]

Originally posted by Sláy

Really? I would disagree. She hasn't used the show since her debut (when she had to). She certainly is a soul singer. Comparing vocally to Adele. She is. Call her basic, but they take Adele to school on vocals. She hasn't relied on the show (Leona kinda gets forced to). The show isn't the point, it was cowell's label that was the issue. Also, Rebecca Ferguson, Cher and 1Direction have and are making waves in the USA. The show is irrelevant. You must operate outside it. And she has, successfully. Compared to the other acts (bar Leona) from the show.

It doesn't matter who has the better voice. Alexandra Burke is better vocalist on the technical side, but she would need the material to have a proper breakthrough. The material I've heard from her is as substantial as the material I've heard from Nicole Scherzinger.

[LadyGagaStan93]

Originally posted by Sláy

That's true to an extent, but everyone influences everyone. It's not an over generalisation, but the truth. There were some doing X and some doing Y, but they never got mainstream attention.

Yeah that is right. I don't know, I just never got why some people say "this is what black music sounds like" That's never made sense to me I mean I know certain styles of music have been created by certain cultures, but how does a color sound like something??

[Sláy]

Originally posted by Cap10Planet

It doesn't matter who has the better voice. Alexandra Burke is better vocalist on the technical side, but she would need the material to have a proper breakthrough. The material I've heard from her is as substantial as the material I've heard from Nicole Scherzinger.

Now that's low. But if she has the launch, she could easily be a success, her debut was far better than Nicole's. It worked well. Her label didn't do any proper international promo. Downside of being on Cowell's label. I mean Jessie J went with her debut and it wasn't all that, and she had success. Alex could've had even more (3 top 10 hits IMO) if they'd put her out there. Her live performances boost the material IMO.

[Sláy]

Originally posted by LadyGagaStan93

Yeah that is right. I don't know, I just never got why some people say "this is what black music sounds like" That's never made sense to me I mean I know certain styles of music have been created by certain cultures, but how does a color sound like something??

Lol..generally because at the time, only some sung certain styles, going back to segregation days.

[Auren]

Originally posted by Cap10Planet

It doesn't matter who has the better voice. Alexandra Burke is better vocalist on the technical side, but she would need the material to have a proper breakthrough. The material I've heard from her is as substantial as the material I've heard from Nicole Scherzinger.

MTE.

[Sláy]

Originally posted by Auren

MTE.

What does MTE mean? I've seen it before....

[LadyGagaStan93]

Originally posted by Sláy

Lol..generally because at the time, only some sung certain styles, going back to segregation days.

A mess Especially considering it's 2012. Ah well, music should bring us closer

[Auren]

Originally posted by Sláy

What does MTE mean? I've seen it before....

My thoughts exactly. It's nothing against Alexandra, I'm just echoing Cap in saying that amazing vocals will only get you so far. Adele's lyrics are sometimes overrated, but there's no denying that she wouldn'tve broken through without good material. Her voice definitely sells the songs, but it can only do so much. Alex needs stronger material to accompany her voice.

[Sláy]

Originally posted by Auren

My thoughts exactly. It's nothing against Alexandra, I'm just echoing Cap in saying that amazing vocals will only get you so far. Adele's lyrics are sometimes overrated, but there's no denying that she wouldn'tve broken through without good material. Her voice definitely sells the songs, but it can only do so much. Alex needs stronger material to accompany her voice.

I agree too. If Jessie had success with her debut in the US, surely Alex could have. Her material was a good starting point. 19 wasn't perfect, but it got her attention. And then 21 was better due to her being in the US and meeting various producers. Same for Alex, if they'd released it, she could've met others (she had met Rico Love and RedOne). SMH at Cowell, the girl could've been big and yet he chose 1Direction over her and Leona. It really annoys me.

[IDRAG4MJ]

no lies there ..its the truth

[Jabril]

This is ridiculous.

[ramyon74]

Yet more mud slinging at Adele and her fans. If the fat vs thin issue wasn't enough now some idiot plays the race card.....Adele is successful because she's good period, just like Michael Jackson, Whitney Houston, Celine Dion etc. were succesfull.Good music transcends race, thats what makes it beautiful...it touches every humans soul....

[QueenJ]

Sounds pressed as **** tho.

[QueenJ]

Originally posted by Sláy

What does MTE mean? I've seen it before....

It means 'my thought exactly'

[Barbarella]

[KeirGrey]

Originally posted by NE.

For those of you associating Dance and Pop with Whites, I hope you DO understand that modern Pop music is a derivative of R&B and Rock which were created by BLACK people. Black culture has been the pinnacle of modern popular music since the 20th century. Yes, artists like Britney Spears and especially Justin Timberlake are products of Black music styles commercialized to appeal across the masses. Some of you need a reality check.

wtf

[Duca]

Originally posted by NE.

For those of you associating Dance and Pop with Whites, I hope you DO understand that modern Pop music is a derivative of R&B and Rock which were created by BLACK people. Black culture has been the pinnacle of modern popular music since the 20th century. Yes, artists like Britney Spears and especially Justin Timberlake are products of Black music styles commercialized to appeal across the masses. Some of you need a reality check.

You need a reality check, because with your ignorant comments in every racism-related thread on ATRL, you keep on proving YOU are a racist.