[Mr.Marvelous]

Originally posted by Kats

You all don't even look passed the numbers. It would be interesting to note that the LOUD Tour did not even stop at venues in Japan, Philippines, Australia, New Zealand, Argentina. The California Dreams Tour attended all of these countries to sold out-venues, that right there is significant in how far the era's "reached" WW.
Also keep in mind that this era as a whole is far more memorable than the LOUD era, which didn't really make much impact and was easily forgettable.
And let's not even speak in terms of awards and nominations, Katy takes that cake easily.

She didn't tour in those countries, because she didn't want to.
Do you really think Katy is more succesfull WW than Rihanna?
& even if she didn't tour in any of those countries, her gross is way more than Katy's, which is more impressive.

[O.KAY]

Originally posted by Kats

You all don't even look passed the numbers. It would be interesting to note that the LOUD Tour did not even stop at venues in Japan, Philippines, Australia, New Zealand, Argentina. The California Dreams Tour attended all of these countries to sold out-venues, that right there is significant in how far the era's "reached" WW.
Also keep in mind that this era as a whole is far more memorable than the LOUD era, which didn't really make much impact and was easily forgettable.
And let's not even speak in terms of awards and nominations, Katy takes that cake easily.

so because she chose not to go to more regions, the era is less successful. If anything that goes in Rihanna's favor. She stopped in less regions and still ******* on her tour gross with less dates. The only thing I consider memorable about the TD era is Firework. The general public don't give a **** about that stank ass record. Most don't even know about it outside the Stan world. I really don't see any type of impact the TD era had. She had successful singles and even when it comes to that I still hear OG, WMN?, MD, S&M, way more than I hear any of the TD singles not named Firework.

[Giacobbe]

The TD era will define Katy's career and everything she puts forward after it will be compared to it, everything Rih releases quality wise will be compared to RR and success wise to GGGB, LOUD will just be another era for Rihanna. Looking back people will remember TD over Loud any day tbh...

[Kats]

Originally posted by zzmyth

what awards and nominations hunn? school me.

TD won no grammys at all. And last time I checked BOTH were nominated for album of the year

Juno Awards, VMA's, AMA's, PCA's, etc. And more, it isn't that hard to see that Teenage Dream received more nominations and awards overall.
Katy had more significant nominations, but I was talking overall.

[castrobabytiger]

na nna na come on...let's be serious
Rihanna was more successful

[SLAYANNA NAVY]

Death at people talking about the LOUD tour not stopping at certain venues yet it still grossed more, the shade writes itself here

[Mr.Marvelous]

Originally posted by Katy.Kat.23

Most of the general public don't even know/care about the discounts or remixes though
My friends were going through my phone and found the Missy Elliot LFN remix, and they asked if I made it

The TD will not be remembered by remixes/discounts

[/enddiscussion]

The TD era will not be remembered at all.

[Kats]

Originally posted by Abnormal

But Rihanna's tour still out-grossed Katy's even without those dates. For an album with a record amount of #1s, the sales and awards won aren't all that impressive. :/ Teenage Dream might have made a bigger impact, but that doesn't make it more successful. Success = numbers.

But to be honest, neither the TD or LOUD eras will be remembered by time Katy or Rihanna releases their tenth album.

I never said it didn't outgross it, but the whole point here is success isn't just measure in numbers. Impact and how much it really does for your career can say loads as well. Like I said, most of you see it for the numbers and dismiss it.

[zzmyth]

Originally posted by Giacobbe

The TD era will define Katy's career and everything she puts forward after it will be compared to it, everything Rih releases quality wise will be compared to RR and success wise to GGGB, LOUD will just be another era for Rihanna. Looking back people will remember TD over Loud any day tbh...

let me tell you a fact....

Just the thought of Rihanna with red hair will be remembered. I bet you no one will remember CG, TD, LFN, TOTGA or ET in 3 years time. The only memorable song in TD was Firework

[Katy.Kat.23]

Originally posted by Mr.Marvelous

The TD era will not be remembered at all.

Now that is straight up delusion. So I won't even get into it.

[Last Boy on Earth]

Originally posted by SLAYANNA NAVY

Death at people talking about the LOUD tour not stopping at certain venues yet it still grossed more, the shade writes itself here

Not them dragging theirselves and their fave . Rihanna could easily reach the 100M+ mark if she wanted to while the other grossed 30M less with more dates.

[fabian_phipps]

Originally posted by SLAYANNA NAVY

Death at people talking about the LOUD tour not stopping at certain venues yet it still grossed more, the shade writes itself here

I just couldn't at that post.

[Last Boy on Earth]

Originally posted by Mr.Marvelous

The TD era will not be remembered at all.

All the hits were already forgotten, I have no idea what makes them think it will remembered

[NewRihannaStan]

Originally posted by Giacobbe

The TD era will define Katy's career and everything she puts forward after it will be compared to it, everything Rih releases quality wise will be compared to RR and success wise to GGGB, LOUD will just be another era for Rihanna. Looking back people will remember TD over Loud any day tbh...

Loud will always be remembered cause of the ICONIC red hair and well who can forget O na na whats my name.

[nader]

katy

[Kats]

Originally posted by KΔΥ.ΒΣΣ

so because she chose not to go to more regions, the era is less successful. If anything that goes in Rihanna's favor. She stopped in less regions and still ******* on her tour gross with less dates. The only thing I consider memorable about the TD era is Firework. The general public don't give a **** about that stank ass record. Most don't even know about it outside the Stan world. I really don't see any type of impact the TD era had. She had successful singles and even when it comes to that I still hear OG, WMN?, MD, S&M, way more than I hear any of the TD singles not named Firework.

No, I'm simply saying that the OP stated this was based on WW success. Rihanna's tour did better because she stayed in regions she could milk for all it's worth. Katy's tour was more successful in further regions around the world than just the UK/CA/US. LOUD grossed more, yes. But your not getting the point that it was not more successful on a WW scale because it didn't visit half the locations the CDT did. See, now your getting all worked up for nothing, and your saying radical things. I'll leave you here.

[Katy.Kat.23]

Originally posted by Last Boy on Earth

All the hits were already forgotten, I have no idea what makes them think it will remembered

The only thing to be remembered out of the Loud era is the red hair. That's it.

[Last Boy on Earth]

TD era was so big so big that it didn't make any headlines besides billboard and ATRL when she tied that cheap record, I didn't see her in the media, not many magazine covers, all the other girls in their peak eras were EVERYWHERE, what happened?

[castrobabytiger]

Originally posted by Mr.Marvelous

The TD era will not be remembered at all.

bwahhahaha

[Giacobbe]

Originally posted by zzmyth

let me tell you a fact....

Just the thought of Rihanna with red hair will be remembered. I bet you no one will remember CG, TD, LFN, TOTGA or ET in 3 years time. The only memorable song in TD was Firework

Breaking huge records, non stop radio play, those videos, not leaving the top 10 for more than a year>>> red hair

oh and ps sis, I STILL hear people playing CG in their cars, how many times do you hear CKB being played...?