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Originally posted by Tinker
Surely Jacob's story touched most of yall and that's why yall want to donate more to IC. The documentary thing is working. Stop the critizing.
Wouldn't you want to see more sad to happy stories like Jacob's? I would.
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Other children like Jacob would be killed when the Ugandan military comes in and blows everything to hell. 
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3/7/2012, 7:09 PM
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You guys are slipping into the strawman that IC is using no money at all to directly help the children, by the way. Keep an eye on that.
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The only thing IC is doing is spreading awareness, yay?
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Oh, we're there now. I'm out.
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3/7/2012, 7:12 PM
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Originally posted by VAN de
I don't think anyone's freaking out. Just confused as to your whole weak argument.
"Don't support IC cause they're only raising awareness." Ok....
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Have you actually read the past five pages? Don't jump in randomly, please.
It's great that they raise awareness but awareness becomes ineffective after so-long. They've already had 11 documentaries and the UN has been involved with bringing Kony down for years. Documentary #12 will incite similar behaivor. Angsty bandwagoning teenagers will share a link and think they're saving the world. But Documentary #12 isn't going to be any more effective then Documentary #11.
Now that you know about Kony (so, yes, I'm giving props to IC) donate to OTHER, REPUTABLE charities that DIRECTLY help these children.
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3/7/2012, 7:14 PM
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Total waste I think to put an opposite opinion when it comes to things like this, even tho the facts are just so on-your-face.
Say I'm an ignorant mother****er blablabla, but I won't be easily fall for a shady organization, but I will support the main cause via trusted organizations like UN. Action speaks louder. Words are not enough.
Things can't be separated into black & white only. People tend to forget about the gray area.
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3/7/2012, 7:15 PM
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Oh, we're there now. I'm out.
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I like how you failed to include the following sentence. PLEASE enlighten me on how IC helps besides funding military armies with bad reputations.
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3/7/2012, 7:16 PM
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Other children like Jacob would be killed when the Ugandan military comes in and blows everything to hell. 
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Does the military work for Kony? Does the president of Uganda? Capture/Kill Kony. Take the guns aways from the young soldiers and put them back in school. That's what the IC wants, is it not? Why would the military want to harm the victims?
There are other members possibly loyal to Kony and are apart of the LRA that would continue to be a threat but they will be weakened without Kony.
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3/7/2012, 7:16 PM
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Originally posted by Will_
You're really naive to think that when you donate money to a charity it goes DIRECTLY to people in need. When you donate to a charity part of it is to help sustain the charity itself.
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3/7/2012, 7:17 PM
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Originally posted by Tinker
Does the military work for Kony? Does the president of Uganda? Capture/Kill Kony. Take the guns aways from the young soldiers and put them back in school. That's what the IC wants, is it not? Why would the soldiers want to harm the victims?
There are other members possibly loyal to Kony and are apart of the LRA that would continue to be a threat but they will be weakened without Kony.
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IC isn't going to take away guns from young soldiers if all they do is make documentaries and support dangerous military interventions that risk the lives of innocent youths.
Yes, they will be weakened, but they'll recover. This shouldn't be about Kony. This should be about helping his victims.
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3/7/2012, 7:18 PM
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Originally posted by mariska
Have you actually read the past five pages? Don't jump in randomly, please.
It's great that they raise awareness but awareness becomes ineffective after so-long. They've already had 11 documentaries and the UN has been involved with bringing Kony down for years. Documentary #12 will incite similar behaivor. Angsty bandwagoning teenagers will share a link and think they're saving the world. But Documentary #12 isn't going to be any more effective then Documentary #11.
Now that you know about Kony (so, yes, I'm giving props to IC) donate to OTHER, REPUTABLE charities that DIRECTLY help these children.
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Stop. The documentaries are only helping but I do get your point now. "Don't only donate to IC but other charities as well." Fair enough.
I think you should change the title.
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3/7/2012, 7:20 PM
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Most of you didn't give a **** about abused children in Africa until it was a "hot trend" anyways, so stop trying to bash the OP for reading between the lines, regardless of whether this is true or not.
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3/7/2012, 7:20 PM
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Originally posted by Tinker
Does the military work for Kony? Does the president of Uganda? Capture/Kill Kony. Take the guns aways from the young soldiers and put them back in school. That's what the IC wants, is it not? Why would the military want to harm the victims?
There are other members possibly loyal to Kony and are apart of the LRA that would continue to be a threat but they will be weakened without Kony.
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The POINT is
What IC wants =/= not getting anything done
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3/7/2012, 7:21 PM
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The point of this thread is that although IC has good intentions they are NOT the best way to make a difference.
If you're going to donate, do it through the UN or other charities with better reputations and backgrounds.
I'm done.
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3/7/2012, 7:23 PM
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Originally posted by Tinker
Stop. The documentaries are only helping but I do get your point now. "Don't only donate to IC but other charities as well." Fair enough.
I think you should change the title.
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No.
Don't Support Kony 2012. They support an unnecessary and risky escalation of military forces. Don't donate to IC at ALL. You WILL be contributing to a potentially fatal situation.
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3/7/2012, 7:24 PM
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Originally posted by NE.
Most of you didn't give a **** about abused children in Africa until it was a "hot trend" anyways, so stop trying to bash the OP for reading between the lines, regardless of whether this is true or not.
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Not everyone's supporting it because it's a 'hot trend'.
Most people didn't even know about this guy before the video went viral.
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3/7/2012, 7:29 PM
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Originally posted by mariska
Have you actually read the past five pages? Don't jump in randomly, please.
It's great that they raise awareness but awareness becomes ineffective after so-long. They've already had 11 documentaries and the UN has been involved with bringing Kony down for years. Documentary #12 will incite similar behaivor. Angsty bandwagoning teenagers will share a link and think they're saving the world. But Documentary #12 isn't going to be any more effective then Documentary #11.
Now that you know about Kony (so, yes, I'm giving props to IC) donate to OTHER, REPUTABLE charities that DIRECTLY help these children.
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Yes, I've read the last five pages. More importantly, I've lived the kind of life Jacob has had to endure. The things you're saying are so on the surface of the real issue that it's hard for me to take you seriously. There's nothing left for me to say. 
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Originally posted by VAN de
Yes, I've read the last five pages. More importantly, I've lived the kind of life Jacob has had to endure. The things you're saying are so on the surface of the real issue that it's hard for me to take you seriously. There's nothing left for me to say. 
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So I'm sure you would have loved for an entire army to come in and kill your siblings? NBD. I mean, you ARE supporting a charity that wants exactly that... 
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3/7/2012, 7:31 PM
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I'm tired of people thinking they're humanitarians because they tweet/Facebook 'stop Kony!' and share a link 
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Never seen anyone imply that they were though 
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3/7/2012, 7:33 PM
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this damn ****ing campaign won't even help the poor children? IC is such an ass! Those poor children are suffering and all they worry about is filming? 
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3/7/2012, 7:34 PM
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Never seen anyone imply that they were though 
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Basically everybody on my Facebook thinks they're saving the world from impending doom 
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3/7/2012, 7:35 PM
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So I'm sure you would have loved for an entire army to come in and kill your siblings? NBD. I mean, you ARE supporting a charity that wants exactly that... 
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You don't even know the half of it.
Simply put, don't underestimate the impact that IC is having on this situation. 
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3/7/2012, 7:37 PM
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