[KoreanDream]

Originally posted by Cheers

selling records = having success. "Bitch bye"

You clearly misunderstood my comment in the first place, so...

[Belle]

Suju should be down a tier because they haven't been innovative since the Sorry Sorry era. That's IMO...but most agree.

I'll make a tier list later. Watching midnight in Paris right now so deal.

[KoreanDream]

Originally posted by KoreanDream

Let's just do this once and for all, no?

Girl Groups
Tier 1
Girls' Generation, 2NE1, Wonder Girls, KARA, T-ara
Tier 2
Brown Eyed Girls, miss A, f(x)
Tier 3

Boy Bands
Tier 1
TVXQ, JYJ, Super Junior, Big Bang, BEAST
Tier 2
SHINee, 2PM
Tier 3

Now fill in the blanks, girls.

Hmm.

[KoreanDream]

Originally posted by Belle

Suju should be down a tier because they haven't been innovative since the Sorry Sorry era. That's IMO...but most agree.

I'll make a tier list later. Watching midnight in Paris right now so deal.

Mr. Simple sold like hot cakes, though.

I'll be doing tier 1 and tier 2 in a second but I'll leave tier 3 to Lukitoo or something since I don't follow flops.

[Cheers]

Originally posted by KoreanDream

You clearly misunderstood my comment in the first place, so...

O.K

Bottom line, T-ara, Kara and the others are not comparable.

[KoreanDream]

Originally posted by Cheers

O.K

Bottom line, T-ara, Kara and the others are not comparable.

Bottom line: 4minute are irrelevant, and each tier should have 5 groups, which allows for KARA and Slay-ara.

[Belle]

Originally posted by KoreanDream

Mr. Simple sold like hot cakes, though. :

Sales not quite = status though. The group's been falling apart. The songs have been rehashing Sorry Sorry. Digital sales are a joke. Etc.

[Cheers]

Originally posted by KoreanDream

Bottom line: 4minute are irrelevant, and each tier should have 5 groups, which allows for KARA and Slay-ara.

4Minute are irrelevant yet here you are discussing them. & why should there be 5 groups ?

Originally posted by Belle

Suju should be down a tier because they haven't been innovative since the Sorry Sorry era. That's IMO...but most agree.

Nahh, Bonamana & Mr. Simple.

[KoreanDream]

Originally posted by Belle

Sales not quite = status though. The group's been falling apart. The songs have been rehashing Sorry Sorry. Digital sales are a joke. Etc.

Well you know I wouldn't be against putting SuJu down a tier if it meant SHINee could be in tier 1.

[KoreanDream]

Originally posted by Cheers

& why should there be 5 groups ?

And why shouldn't there be?

[Belle]

Originally posted by KoreanDream

Well you know I wouldn't be against putting SuJu down a tier if it meant SHINee could be in tier 1.

Just wait for my list

[Cheers]

Originally posted by KoreanDream

And why shouldn't there be?

Because:
SNSD, WG & 2NE1 can't be compared to the others
SJ, BB, & TVXQ can't be compared to the others

[KoreanDream]

Originally posted by Cheers

Because:
SNSD, WG & 2NE1 can't be compared to the others
SJ, BB, & TVXQ can't be compared to the others

Except JYJ need to be in the top tier.

And even so, there's no point in having a top tier that has no movement and doesn't allow for any new groups.

[blackout77]

Hmm time to multiquote like a mother****er

[Belle]

TVXQ in its current form can be compared to others. If they were still 5 I'd say otherwise. Big Bang can be compared but they are top, bottom line.

[Cheers]

Originally posted by KoreanDream

Except JYJ need to be in the top tier.

And even so, there's no point in having a top tier that has no movement and doesn't allow for any new groups.

Then add JYJ. But even then are you going to put BEAST on the same level as a group that toured Europe & will be the first K-Pop group to have a solo concert in South America?

[KoreanDream]

Originally posted by Cheers

Then add JYJ. But even then are you going to put BEAST on the same level as a group that toured Europe & will be the first K-Pop group to have a solo concert in South America?

Weren't you just coming at me for trying to put 4 groups in a "trinity"?

And again, I'm trying to create tiers that accurately reflect the current state of K-pop, and having top tiers that don't allow for any new groups is ****ing stupid. Plus no one even said that everyone in the same tier has to be at the same level in popularity.

[Cheers]

Originally posted by KoreanDream

Weren't you just coming at me for trying to put 4 groups in a "trinity"?

And again, I'm trying to create tiers that accurately reflect the current state of K-pop, and having top tiers that don't allow for any new groups is ****ing stupid. Plus no one even said that everyone in the same tier has to be at the same level in popularity.

It's different with the males because those are THE male groups. For females there's just three. That's just the way it is.

A mess but okay.

[KoreanDream]

Originally posted by Cheers

It's different with the males because those are THE male groups. For females there's just three. That's just the way it is.

A mess but okay.

That makes no sense at all but okay.

[Cheers]

Originally posted by KoreanDream

That makes no sense at all but okay.

It makes perfect sense. Those males are all on a respected legendary (or really close to) level. For the gals it's SNSD, WG, & 2NE1. Who's the 4th?