[LDYGG]

Poor BTWB thread being neglected. Can't wait for the show to start up again.

[Foot]

Last updated: 9/19/12 (after venue change in Nice)

Since the capacities I used for my Oceanic estimations were off, I redid the European leg so that we have a more accurate image of the gross. The African ones were pretty conservative, so I believe they're correct.

Total gross prediction: European leg

Bulgaria - 300*255+1000*125+1000*106+1700*100+3000*88+6000*75 = [strike]$1.191.500 - Approx. 13.000 tickets sold
Romania - 1000*187+2000*128+2000*87+2000*93+2000*74+2000*85+ 1000*66+4000*50+9000*40+500*288+2000*47+7500*26= $2.180.000 - Approx. 35.000 tickets sold
Austria - 9500*110+500*328+4000*140+2000*110= $1.989.000[/B] - Approx. 16.000 tickets sold
Lithuania - 500*289+5500*104+9000*79+10000*53 = $1.957.500 - Approx. 25.000 tickets sold
Latvia - 1000*282+4000*121+9000*68+6000*51 = $1.684.000 - Approx. 20.000 tickets sold
Estonia - 500*274+3000*121+6000*84+5500*60$1.334.000 - Approx. 15.000 tickets sold
Finland - 2(3000*132+4800*132+4700*106+2000*106+300*283+100* 277)-1500*132-1400*106-100*283-50*277 = $3.314.550 - Approx. 24.000 tickets sold
Sweden - 2(3600*103+300*250+3400*145+200*300+200*430+3150*1 03+3250*81+1000*52)= $3.449.000 - Approx. 31.000 tickets sold
Denmark - 16000*101+500*251+9000*75+5000*97+4000*123+500*281 = $3.534.000 - Approx. 35.000 tickets sold
Germany (Koln) - 2(4000*136+11300*101+2000*80+400*290+300*248) = $4.071.400 - Approx. 36.000 tickets sold
UK (London) - 2(19000*101+1000*225+8000*116+1000*238+1000*377+10 000*101+15000*74) - 3000*101-2000*101-500*225-500*377-2000*74 = $10.811.000 - Approx. 100.000 tickets sold
UK (Manchester) - 2700*120+6500*128+4000*119+800*386= $1.940.800 - Approx. 14.000 tickets sold
Ireland - 14500*113+800*257+6000*98+1000*277+9000*113+18000* 92= $5.382.100 - Approx. 50.000 tickets sold
The Netherlands - 2(5600*98+400*269+2600*118+200*249+200*414+2000*98 +5000*72)-600*98-100*269-600-118-50*663-300-98-1000*72=$3.012.550 - Approx. 29.000 tickets sold
Germany (Berlin) - 5000*149+2700*112+300*191+3000*112+2000*90=$1.620.700 - Approx. 13.000 tickets sold
France (Paris) - 18000*89+1000*234+13000*100+1000*249+14000*96+2200 0*67 = $6.270.000 - Approx. 70.000 tickets sold
Germany (Hanover) - 6700*110+4800*148+2000*110+2000*87+300*270+200*314 = $1.982.750 - Approx. 14.000 tickets sold
Switzerland - 2(6800*123+300*271+6600*149+200*310+200*396)= $4.080.000 - Approx. 28.000 tickets sold
Belgium - 2(4200*99+300*254+2500*66+200*287+300*262+5500*79+ 3500*99+2200*125)-1000*99-100*254-50*287-50*262-500*125= $3.457.450 - Approx. 34.000 tickets sold
Italy - 6200*110+300*270+2800*148+200*314+2500*90= $1.465.200 (very roughly) - Approx. 12.000 tickets sold
France (Nice) - 2(4000*132+3000*103+2000*81)= $1.998.000 - Approx. 18.000 tickets sold
Spain - 500*282+400*276+1000*263+1500*217+2500*125+4500*11 8+1500*112+3000*98+1500*72= $2.253.400 - Approx. 16.000 tickets sold

Updated gross estimate for Europe (30 dates): $68.978.900


Updated total gross estimate for Asia, Oceania, Europe & Africa (65 dates): $162.858.400

Estimate for Asia, Oceania, Europe & Africa including the actual gross, where available (65 dates): $147.899.512

[hugox]

really good gross because tickets are not so expensive
because the crowd is young....

[Pressed Bitch]

Originally posted by Foot

Since the capacities I used for my Oceanic estimations were off, I redid the European leg so that we have a more accurate image of the gross. The African ones were pretty conservative, so I believe they're correct.

Total gross prediction: European leg

Bulgaria* - 1000*255+2500*125+2500*106+5000*100+9000*88+20000* 75 = $3.624.500 - Approx. 40.000 tickets sold
Romania* - 2000*187+3500*128+3500*87+3500*93+3500*74+3500*85+ 2500*66+4000*50+10000*40+1000*288 = $3.061.500 - Approx. 35.000 tickets sold
Austria - 9500*110+500*328+4000*140+2000*110= $1.989.000 - Approx. 16.000 tickets sold
Lithuania* - 1000*289+7000*104+10000*79+12000*53 = $2.443.000 - Approx. 30.000 tickets sold
Latvia* - 1500*282+6500*121+12500*68+9500*51 = $2.544.000 - Approx. 30.000 tickets sold
Estonia* - 2000*274+10000*121+20000*84+18000*60$4.518.000 - Approx. 50.000 tickets sold
Finland - 2(3000*132+4800*132+4700*106+2000*106+300*283+100* 277)-1500*132-1400*106-100*283-50*277 = $3.314.550 - Approx. 24.000 tickets sold
Sweden - 2(3600*103+300*250+3400*145+200*300+200*430+3150*1 03+3250*81+1000*52)= $3.449.000 - Approx. 31.000 tickets sold
Denmark* - 14000*101+500*251+8000*75+4000*97+3000*123+500*281 = $3.037.000 - Approx. 40.000 tickets sold
Germany (Koln) - 2(4800*136+12700*101+2000*80+400*290+300*248) = $4.571.800 - Approx. 40.000 tickets sold
UK (London) - 2(19000*101+1000*225+8000*116+1000*238+1000*377+10 000*101+15000*74) - 3000*101-2000*101-500*225-500*377-2000*74 = $10.811.000 - Approx. 100.000 tickets sold
UK (Manchester) - 2700*120+6500*128+4000*119+800*386= $1.940.800 - Approx. 14.000 tickets sold
Ireland - 14500*113+800*257+6000*98+1000*277+9000*113+18000* 92= $5.382.100 - Approx. 50.000 tickets sold
The Netherlands - 2(5600*98+400*269+2600*118+200*249+200*414+2000*98 +5000*72)-600*98-100*269-600-118-50*663-300-98-1000*72=$3.012.550 - Approx. 29.000 tickets sold
Germany (Berlin) - 5000*149+2700*112+300*191+3000*112+2000*90=$1.620.700 - Approx. 13.000 tickets sold
France (Paris) - 18000*89+1000*234+13000*100+1000*249+14000*96+2200 0*67 = $6.270.000 - Approx. 70.000 tickets sold
Germany (Hanover) - 6700*110+4800*148+2000*110+2000*87+300*270+200*314 = $1.982.750 - Approx. 14.000 tickets sold
Switzerland - 2(6800*123+300*271+6600*149+200*310+200*396)= $4.080.000 - Approx. 28.000 tickets sold
Belgium - 2(4200*99+300*254+2500*66+200*287+300*262+5500*79+ 3500*99+2200*125)-1000*99-100*254-50*287-50*262-500*125= $3.457.450 - Approx. 34.000 tickets sold
Italy - 6200*110+300*270+2800*148+200*314+2500*90= $1.465.200 (very roughly) - Approx. 12.000 tickets sold
France (Nice) - 28000*104+700*264+7000*133+700*300+7000*82= $4.811.800 - Approx. 44.000 tickets sold
Spain - 500*282+400*276+1000*263+1500*217+2500*125+4500*11 8+1500*112+3000*98+1500*72= $2.253.400 - Approx. 16.000 tickets sold

Updated gross estimate for Europe (29 dates): $79.640.100


Updated total gross estimate for Asia, Oceania, Europe & Africa (64 dates): $173.138.600

Estimate for Asia, Oceania, Europe & Africa including the actual gross, where available (64 dates): $158.179.712

Hope she can pull 300M $

Originally posted by hugox

really good gross because tickets are not so expensive
because the crowd is young....

[Foot]

Originally posted by Pressed Bitch

Hope she can pull 300M $

At first I thought she would only just cross $300m but I'm pretty doubtful now, especially if she sticks to 110 dates. But that would mean she would neglect America since she said herself that there will be more European dates, so it's kinda impossible.

She could do:
- 12-14 dates in SA x ~3m = $36-42m (November)
- 40 dates in NA x ~2m = $80m (mid January - late March)
- 15 dates in Europe x ~2.5m = $37.5m (April)

That way she could make $310-315m with 130-135 dates, which would be excellent.

Imagine she stops at like $295m and the Jakarta concert becomes the one that would make her cross the mark.

[Scandal & Media]

Have the Perth #'s come in?

[Konichiwa]

She's sold 100,000 tickets in London? That's huge. Did both the Twickenham dates sell out?

[Foot]

Originally posted by Konichiwa

She's sold 100,000 tickets in London? That's huge. Did both the Twickenham dates sell out?

I forgot to mention that these numbers are estimations of what she will have sold by then, not already sold tickets. The second date isn't sold out but it should be pretty close - if it does, the attendance should be between 105-110k.

[Niksan555]

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?f...4520253&type=1

The concert is moved from "Vassil Levski National Stadium" to "Arena Armeec Sofia". The capacity for concerts is 19,000.



More information:
http://arenaarmeecsofia.com/Arena-Ma...c_lang.en.html
http://arenaarmeecsofia.com/Seat-Vie...c_lang.en.html
http://arenaarmeecsofia.com/360-View...c_lang.en.html

[Eric.]

So that tells us about the Bulgarian date. Nothing to worry about. That is the first concert of the European leg, so I hope nearly half of the tickets (for the original venue) had been sold already for making this decision.

[LDYGG]

Originally posted by Eric.

So that tells us about the Bulgarian date. Nothing to worry about. That is the first concert of the European leg, so I hope nearly half of the tickets (for the original venue) had been sold already for making this decision.

Not really, to be honest. They could have changed it for a number of reasons. Like, they didn't change venues when Manila (or was it Taiwan?) wasn't selling.

I don't really care if she crosses $300m... The show only need to cross $200m to become one of the highest-grossing tours of all time and I'm happy with that.

[Dr.Cake]

Originally posted by Niksan555

The concert is moved from "Vassil Levski National Stadium" to "Arena Armeec Sofia". The capacity for concerts is 19,000.



More information:
http://arenaarmeecsofia.com/Arena-Ma...c_lang.en.html
http://arenaarmeecsofia.com/Seat-Vie...c_lang.en.html
http://arenaarmeecsofia.com/360-View...c_lang.en.html

Omg
I really hope she doesn't move the romanian concert too

[LDYGG]

Originally posted by Dr.Cake

Omg
I really hope she doesn't move the romanian concert too

Seems like such a mess to move the venue. How do people who bought tickets find out about the move?

[MrPeanut]

Originally posted by LDYGG

Not really, to be honest. They could have changed it for a number of reasons. Like, they didn't change venues when Manila (or was it Taiwan?) wasn't selling.

I don't really care if she crosses $300m... The show only need to cross $200m to become one of the highest-grossing tours of all time and I'm happy with that.

$200m is already a given. Her grossing $300m on her second major tour would be a HUGE deal, and I hope she does whatever it takes to get there.

The venue change for Bulgaria doesn't surprise me. I don't know why they opted for stadiums in those countries. Maybe somebody else has a better idea than me. It just doesn't seem to make sense for such sparsely populated countries.

[LeonazNumber#1]

Originally posted by MrPeanut

The venue change for Bulgaria doesn't surprise me. I don't know why they opted for stadiums in those countries. Maybe somebody else has a better idea than me. It just doesn't seem to make sense for such sparsely populated countries.

I've been wondering this too. It's not just the low population of these countries that makes me question the venue choices, its also the fact that these countries are not wealthy and are less globalised which has meant gaga is somewhat incapable of being as popular there as she is is western & central Europe.
I find it strange that there are only 3 arena dates in Germany, one of the biggest economies in the world and a very populous countries where GaGa constantly goes for promotional visits yet Bulgaria & Romania get stadiums.

[Boop]

A stadium in BULGARIA and a ****ing small arena here in Italy that went sold out in 5 minutes. i don't know what they were thinking

[Foot]

Originally posted by MrPeanut

$200m is already a given. Her grossing $300m on her second major tour would be a HUGE deal, and I hope she does whatever it takes to get there.

The venue change for Bulgaria doesn't surprise me. I don't know why they opted for stadiums in those countries. Maybe somebody else has a better idea than me. It just doesn't seem to make sense for such sparsely populated countries.

What's funny is that the only stadium dates in Europe, other than the UK and France, are in eastern countries with a small population, while the arena dates everywhere else sold out, forcing them to add double dates or just ignore the demand. She could've also done stadiums in Asia and Australia and have played to more people with half the dates.

[MrPeanut]

Originally posted by Foot

What's funny is that the only stadium dates in Europe, other than the UK and France, are in eastern countries with a small population, while the arena dates everywhere else sold out, forcing them to add double dates or just ignore the demand. She could've also done stadiums in Asia and Australia and have played to more people with half the dates.

Right.

Just confusing. Like, huge venues for Latvia and Estonia... and then only one arena date for Spain and Italy each.

I know some people have said that it works to have bigger venues in strategically placed smaller countries cuz then a lot of people from surrounding countries can more easily go to the concert, but it just seems like such a risk.

[Nikko]

I'm glad that the concert was moved to the arena, I'll be able to see her better now.
Somebody said that like 11k seats have been sold. Most of the people are getting GA. No official information, though.

[Nikko]

Originally posted by LDYGG

Seems like such a mess to move the venue. How do people who bought tickets find out about the move?

It's all over Facebook, newspapers and TV now.