[Icing]

Originally posted by skyler

more like a dinodonna stan would hate that word dated

Janet, Jimmy & Terry couldn't lay off the ugly 80s drum machines and synths. Don't blame the Queen, whose music has aged much more gracefully btw.

[mariska]

Originally posted by skyler

the fact the he doesnt know that mariah writes her music as poetry. i guess he doesnt understand poetry

Sylvia Plath and Anne Sexton are my favorite poets and two of my biggest inspirations. I think I understand poetry, and Mariah sucks at it. She tries hard, but she sucks.

I've Often Wondered If There's
Ever Been A Perfect Family
I've Always Longed For Undividedness
And Sought Stability

A Flower Taught Me How To Pray
But As I Grew, That Flower Changed
She Started Flailing In The Wind
Like Golden Petals Scattering

IT'S NOT GOOD! That 'aint poetic. Don't even.

[BLaCKPoWeR]

Originally posted by Harmonic Dreamer

I can sort of agree with Frank, in the respect that he doesn't want to be classified as R&B when his music isn't.
Like think how CRAZY it would be if Fefe Dobson was labeled as an R&B artist when her music is clearly rock, or Darius Rucker labeled as same when his music is bar none country.
Hootie and the Blowfish is clearly a rock band leaded by an African-American.
If they labeled them as R&B, I'd think the industry is racist and delusional.

K, but Frank DOES make R&B music.

[Kats]

Chris will pull sad numbers. I wonder if they will be worse than Nicki.

[the floacist]

Originally posted by mariska

Lady Gaga and Madonna aren't really that similar. Madonna was never weird for the sake of being weird, it was always sexual.

Gaga is more like Elton, tbh. They're both eccentric and wear funny outfits because they can. Madonna was never anything like that.

Outside of Gaga's more creative more over the top costumes, they are. A hell lot more than Britney (who only shares the same hair color) that's for sure

[BLaCKPoWeR]

Originally posted by mariska

Sylvia Plath and Anne Sexton are my favorite poets and two of my biggest inspirations. I think I understand poetry, and Mariah sucks at it. She tries hard, but she sucks.



IT'S NOT GOOD! That 'aint poetic. Don't even.

It's lovely.

[chilicheese01]

Originally posted by the floacist

Poor thAT

I'm still pressed over his numbers, though.

Why does a great album like Usher's flop and Biebers do so well? Makes me mad, tbh.

[Onen]

madonna has always been very weird and eccentric as well as being a bitch. When she was young she was very weird.

[BEE.HD]

I'm kind of surprised that Bieber isn't pulling in bigger first week sales.

[thediscomonkey]

First prediction was around 750-800k right? Damn.

[fortheloveofmusic]

I can understand why he's against it.

"I'll usually cringe at the R&B label,"
"Because it's like calling it urban... and what the f--k is urban music.”

[the floacist]

Originally posted by Icing

Janet, Jimmy & Terry couldn't lay off the ugly 80s drum machines and synths. Don't blame the Queen, whose music has aged much more gracefully btw.

Madonna's 80s music sounds dated.

[mariska]

Originally posted by the floacist

Outside of Gaga's more creative more over the top costumes, they are. A hell lot more than Britney (who only shares the same hair color) that's for sure

How? Madonna was very sexually charged. So is Britney. Gaga isn't sexually charged. She's just weird, and Madonna was never really weird.

Even her most out-there costume (the cone bra) was sexual and not eccentric.

[Kang.]

Frank's music is definitely more alternative-leaning than his contemporaries, but most of it (or at least what we've heard) still IS R&B music. Most of Nostalgia, Ultra mixtape was very soul-influenced, as are Thinkin Bout You and Pyramids.

[Praise Mariallah]

Originally posted by BLaCKPoWeR

It's lovely.

Don't even bother Clark.

None of the stuff he praises is "well-written" by his OWN logic and standards.

It's hopeless arguing with him.

[MusicTalker]

Originally posted by thediscomonkey

Latest prediction for Bieber: 390-410k.

I'm going to be honest & say I don't think his numbers are that stellar. Which is hypocritical considering that he's debuting with twice the amount Rihanna, Katy, & Usher can do, but I feel like he's one of the IT artists right now who should be able to debut with at least 500K. I thought he could approach a million, but obviously I was waaayyy off. I think too many people hate him or something.

MW2.0 debuted with only 100K less, so I feel like his sales should have jumped a little more. I guess I think this is the peak of his career & he should be able to do more, considering how much popularity he has gained. Maybe teen pop fans aren't as devoted now as they used to be.

I could be entirely wrong. Maybe the album will sell with time like My World 2.0 did. It's just interesting to me how this works out. Plus, the fact that the predictions are falling is not a good sigh already.

[crumprKID]

Originally posted by Onen

The only full album I've heard from chris is his first, which I found pretty basic lyrically.

What are some examples of his best work lyrically?

He did the most writing on this album: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Graffit...#Track_listing

The only other songs that come to my head are Forever and Yeah 3x. I think he said that he wrote those two songs in less than an hour and he was proud of that or something . He has a good ear for a hit pop song IMO.

[madonnas]

Originally posted by the floacist

Madonna's 80s music sounds dated.

Some songs do obviously, but a lot of it doesn't.


Also, Gaga and Madonna are very similar. DEAL WITH IT!

[mariska]

Originally posted by BLaCKPoWeR

It's lovely.

ljfkjhfkjsdf;

Fine. I guess I have an unpopular opinion. But her lyrics will always be sappy, immature, trite and unoriginal to me.

[Cap10Planet]

Originally posted by thediscomonkey

First prediction was around 750-800k right? Damn.

No. Those were the stan and hater predictions.

HITS and Billboard were conflicted. They mentioned 400-500k.

My initial prediction was 550k. Then I realized the buzz wasn't that big and scaled it down to 400-500k.

390k would be kinda low. Good, but still low.