[Hooligan]

Originally posted by BnPac

This comment is awful. are you really trying to downgrade RnB music? She was a soul singer she made the music she liked and was amazing at that. By your definition, Usher is way more impactful than Al Green or Luther Vandross/Marvin gaye/james Brown just because unlike them he made pop songs and venture outside of RnB. How disgusting.

Aretha influenced Rock band legends such as Rolling Stones, her contempories like Tina or Patti, pop legends like Michael Jackson, Prince ; huge voices like Mariah carey and Whitney Houston/Céline Dion; RnB legends like Marvin Gaye or James Brown the Godfather of Soul himself. and all that by doing ONE music genre. Which other female singer has ever touched so many people?

Name me one real artist that are influenced musically (not thematically, visually or vocally) by the two artists you just listed?

I'm not saying it as a disrespectful or condoning manner; I'm simply stating that compared to Whitney and Madonna -- who Navyboy compared -- she doesn't have the cultural impact as the two of them. Everyone knows Aretha is the Queen of Soul, but when comparing Aretha to Whitney, Whitney will always win.

That was my point.

[Chickenchiki]

My fave has both so I don't care.






That Jessie J stan though.

[reppingBey]

Cultural impact.

[BnPac]

Originally posted by Hooligan

I'm not saying it as a disrespectful or condoning manner; I'm simply stating that compared to Whitney and Madonna -- who Navyboy compared -- she doesn't have the cultural impact as the two of them. Everyone knows Aretha is the Queen of Soul, but when comparing Aretha to Whitney, Whitney will always win.

That was my point.

But how does she win on cultural impact when she has influenced more people and has influenced the biggest artists in almost every single musical genre. I don't get it.

[Monster Boy]

Cultural impact.

[CloseMyEyes]

Originally posted by Praise Mariallah

Aretha was making hits when this was still around:









More CULTURAL IMPACT than all the heauxs you guys stan for.

I love Aretha but she only has 3 big hit songs. She's a little overrated when it comes to chart performance. When it comes to impact and talent NO ONE is more influential to modern day singers that her.

[Hooligan]

Originally posted by BnPac

But how does she win on cultural impact when she has influenced more people and has influenced the biggest artists in almost every single musical genre. I don't get it.

To me, cultural impact is the impact -- for lack of a better word -- an artist has not just in their country, but worldwide. Yes, Aretha influenced a multitude of artists but I don't think people around the world would name her over the likes of Whitney when asked about R&B.

That said, her influence on other artists isn't to be ignored. She's the Queen of Soul for a reason.

[BnPac]

Originally posted by Hooligan

To me, cultural impact is the impact -- for lack of a better word -- an artist has not just in their country, but worldwide. Yes, Aretha influenced a multitude of artists but I don't think people around the world would name her over the likes of Whitney when asked about R&B.

That said, her influence on other artists isn't to be ignored. She's the Queen of Soul for a reason.

You are confusing popularity and impact. Even WW Aretha had way more impact than Whitney and that's how bad she is because she was as local as they come. See the post below.

Originally posted by Hazzard

I love Aretha but she only has 3 big hit songs. She's a little overrated when it comes to chart performance. When it comes to impact and talent NO ONE is more influential to modern day singers that her.

Oh and Whitney was not an RnB singer, she was pop.

[MusicTalker]

Cultural impact will always leave a stronger impression than sales.

[trinafan92]

Aretha did have WW Cultural Impact.



And Whitney was a R&B,who did pop songs!

[Navyman]

"You are confusing popularity. With impact"
This! Well said Bnpac

[Benzene]

BnPac better READ in this thread. Aretha being reduced to "just an R&B singer," as if soul music didn't heavily influence other genres. Truly disgusting.

As for the question, obviously impact. I'm quite sure Creed has outsold Bob Dylan, but who is more remembered?

[jongshic]

Originally posted by JessieJHeartbeat

If you lived in the UK you would see that she has global cultural impact. She sold out the O2 Arena TWICE, she has a fashion impact, her songs are viewed on YouTube, she is the star little girls want to be. She is the ONLY artist in history to have 6 top ten UK singles from ONE album.

If she had a GLOBAL CULTURAL IMPACT, we would've seen it outside of the UK

[The Best One Yet]

Originally posted by Hooligan

Jessie J has neither cultural impact OR record sales, gurl.

Really? Who You Are sold in UK like Animal sold in US.... she's 3xPlatinum in UK, more than 150,000 in US, and 2.5 million WW.... it's funny that you are saying she hasn't record sales when she sold like Ke$ha's debut.

[The Best One Yet]

Jessie J has become the first solo artist in the UK to have six Top 10 chart singles from one album.

Jessie J's debut pop compilation, Who You Are, will not stop popping. The album has now had more chart hits than any other album by a British solo artist.

Worldwide Jessie J has sold 11 million singles and over 2.5 million copies of her album.

OOPS

[Phoenix83]

^ Once again, she was not the first solo artist to have six top tens from one album. She was the first UK female to do it.

[La Cobra Mafia]

Cultural Impact, but MUSICALLY, if you don't sell records, then most likely you ain't gonna have an impact.

[Jabril]

Both
Gaga has both

[hOAng]

Originally posted by JessieJHeartbeat

If you lived in the UK you would see that she has global cultural impact. She sold out the O2 Arena TWICE, she has a fashion impact, her songs are viewed on YouTube, she is the star little girls want to be. She is the ONLY artist in history to have 6 top ten UK singles from ONE album.

Say what you like, but who will be laughing when LaserLight hits #1 on Hot 100.

[ihaveabono]

Originally posted by lasersss

Cultural impact usually leads to record sales and high record sales usually lead to cultural impact...for some people.

Radiohead's album sales are a perfect example of albums having cultural impact/influence but having relatively small sales as compared with the likes if gaga or katy