[GGD]

Some People needs to stop reaching
she's just expressing her opinion on what's happening
on our Society in this generation

[Twai]

Originally posted by Lover

the reminder is neccesary to make it clear that this should never ever happen again.

to close the eyes is the wrong way.

So you're saying that, had Madonna not dressed up like Hitler, people in Israel might have thought it would be fine if there was another Holocaust?

[Lover]

it is not only israel who sees it.

please stay serious.

[Twai]

Originally posted by Lover

it is not only israel who sees it.

please stay serious.

But from the very first post, this thread is about whether Madonna should have toned down the concert in Israel

[Maneater]

She's just old.

[YourMadGesty]

Ϻɑdonnɑ fɑns, don't tɑke this obvious bɑit ɑnd trɑp. .

[DvnR]

Originally posted by madonnas

So you think everyone should just forget about Hitler?

She's dressed up as Hitler and has the swastika on her damn forehead. That's not remembering Hitler, that's aiming for shock value. There are much better ways to discuss discrimination. Hell, even mention Hitler and tie it into the general message. But what she did was offensive.

[Яeo.]

Originally posted by Twai

But from the very first post, this thread is about whether Madonna should have toned down the concert in Israel

She doesn't tone down her concert in Christian countries, why should she tone it down in Israel?

[Twai]

Originally posted by Maneater

She's just old.

I'm not sure of your point here. Because she's old, she should have toned down her concert?

[GGD]

Originally posted by Maneater

She's just old.

Ageism much

[Twai]

Originally posted by Яeo.

She doesn't tone down her concert in Christian countries, why should she tone it down in Israel?

Again, I'm not saying anything, I am just asking questions in an effort to get people talking about the limits of creative freedom and whether an artist should have to censor herself to prevent people in certain countries from being offended by her art.

[Gui Blackout]

Originally posted by Twai

I would ask... isn't a short clip from an interlude much easier to remove than two hours of songs and speeches? If the benefit is that she doesn't bring up horrific memories of a terrifying time in human history... is it worth it?

No, because Madonna's interlude video actually HAS a political statement, and she's not praising Hittler or Nazism in any sort. The video say the exact opposite.

[Lover]

Originally posted by Twai

But from the very first post, this thread is about whether Madonna should have toned down the concert in Israel

ok. and how does it look if she tone it down there and show it everywhere else?

you can't compare it totally with the conflicts in their country. but it's about dominating people and violence against others.

and hitler is one of many examples to show that it is the wrong way and that it should never happen again.

seriously, i wonder why there came no critics from the audience or press there?

and sorry but i can't read the source in the op.

[Twai]

Originally posted by Gui Blackout

No, because Madonna's interlude video actually HAS a political statement, and she's not praising Hittler or Nazism in any sort. The video say the exact opposite.

Er... Are you trying to imply that the Born This Way Ball doesn't have a message?



I suppose the people in Jakarta were objecting to her repetitive lyrics, then, instead of their meaning?

[Gui Blackout]

Originally posted by Twai

Er... Are you trying to imply that the Born This Way Ball doesn't have a message?



I suppose the people in Jakarta were objecting to her repetitive lyrics, then, instead of their meaning?

No, i'm saying that the BTW Ball message is rubbish compared to what Madonna is trying to say in her tour.

[Twai]

Originally posted by Gui Blackout

No, i'm saying that the BTW Ball message is rubbish compared to what Madonna is trying to say in her tour.

So... trying to change culture until we learn we should accept all people, regardless of race, gender, or sexual orientation and treat each other with dignity, isn't nearly as important as Madonna reminding people that the Holocaust was bad by dressing up as Hitler?

[Gui Blackout]

Originally posted by Twai

So... trying to change culture until we learn we should accept all people, regardless of race, gender, or sexual orientation and treat each other with dignity, isn't nearly as important as Madonna reminding people that the Holocaust was bad by dressing up as Hitler?

And here we have the proof that you did not watched video and don't have a clue of what she's trying to say with it.

[Onen]

You and these threads. Someone needs to ban the **** outta you. Damn.

[Onen]

Originally posted by Twai

But should she maybe have trimmed the section or found a different way to talk about discrimination, instead of offending her fans and the country she was in?

Maybe gaga should have trimmed the alejandro video instead of offending all the Catholics then?

[ToMmY]

Originally posted by Keira

Heil Hitler?!

She is the female version of Hitler, actually.